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UPDATED! 12u Top Team Ranking – Pre ASA Nationals Poll!

by bracketologist » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:51 pm

Phantom wrote:we need an updated list, some of these teams have lost stock, some have gained, fix it


Still waiting for a tournament with at least 4-5 ranked teams before we update the ranking. We decided to not count "friendlies" as they are a teaching tool for most teams, and it's hard to compare teams when some are batting 9 while others are batting 14-15 kids.

As stated before, I believe all of the teams in the poll are pretty close so we expect to see minor and major upsets every week. So yes some teams may have "lost stock, while others gained", but the only way we can know for sure is at the next big tournament (maybe Surf City in March).

The real question is, have you seen any team out of the poll that is flying under the radar?
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by Under the Radar » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:55 pm

Look at the St. Paddys Day Blast in Vegas.... Does anyone know anything about the teams that are not from SoCal?

96 Scottsdale Fever Scottsdale, AZ
Angels Centennial, Colorado
Az Killer Bees 96 Mesa, Az
Bomb Squad 97 Orange, CA
Bullpen Heat Lake Elsinore, CA
California Grapettes Stockton, Ca
Colorado Stampede Littleton, Colorado
Corona Xpress 96 Corona, CA
Desert Arsenal Henderson, NV
Desert Thunder 96 Tucson, AZ
Fresno Foece Visalia, Ca
Fresno Wild Fresno, CA
Lil Rebels 96 Henderson, NV
lil saints 12u Phoenix, az
Minors Gold 97 Menifee, CA
Mizuno All American West Sacramento, Ca
OC Batbusters Ray Yorba Linda, Ca
Ozone Oceanside, Ca
Raiders 96 Placentia, CA
Rocky Mountain Thunder Aurora, Colorado
San Diego Strokes Encinitas, CA
So Cal Crunch 96 Fontana, CA
SoCal Wicked Pico Rivera, CA
Team Arizona 97 Goodyear, AZ
TeamSmith 96 Chino HIlls, CA
teamSmith97 Corona, Ca
The Next Level Temecula, Ca
USA Athletics Long Beach, CA
Valley Tribe Northridge, CA

All above have paid
below have not paid

AMERICAN PASTIME LAKE ELSINORE, CA
So Cal Enforcers Highland, CA
Oklahoma Force 96 Black Moore, OK
Oklahoma Flash Tulsa, Okla.
Rage Navy North Las Vegas, NV
Bullpen Heat Lake Elsinore, Ca


Other than this tourney I think the next big one is SurfCity
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by Under the Radar » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:30 am

SurfCity March Classic sold out unless they get more fields. Monter wait list.... Teams listed first are in..

American Athletics Laguna Niguel, CA
Bomb Squad Anaheim, CA
Cal Stars Coast Orcutt, Ca
California Breeze 96 Elk Grove, CA
California Grapettes Stockton, Ca
California Rebels 12U Fullerton, CA
California Thunder 12U Hacienda Heights, CA
Corona Angels - Lockman 12U Corona, Ca
Corona Angels 12U - Knighten 12U Garden Grove, CA
Corona Xpress 12U Corona, CA
Desert Blaze 12U Adelanto, ca
Fresno Force 12U Visalia, Ca
Irvine Sting 12U Irvine, CA
Nemesis 12U Paramount, CA
OC Batbusters (Ray) 12U Yorba Linda, CA
OC Wildcats 96 Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Raiders 96 Placentia, CA
Revenge 96 (Young) 12U Rancho Cucamonga, Ca

Sacramento Fire & Ice 12U Sacramento, CA
SAN DIEGO POWER SURGE 12U San Diego, Ca
So Cal Diamonds 97 - Cheek 12U Simi Valley, CA
USA Athletics Long Beach, CA
Valley Breeze Winnetka, CA



Teams listed below are on the Waiting List.


American Pastime 12 Ontario, CA
Firecrackers 96 12 Laguna Hills, CA
No Fear 96 12 Downey, California
O. C. Batbusters Lakewood, CA
OC Batbusters (Snow) 12 Chino Hills, CA

OC CRUSH 12 ORANGE, CA
Outlaws 12 Garden Grove, CA
So Cal JYNX 12U West Covina, CA
So Cal Mayhem 12 Westlake Village, CA
So-Cal Diamonds 96 Williams 12 Thousand Oaks, Ca
SoCal Wicked 12 Pico Rivera, CA
TNL 12U Temecula, Ca
Valley Tribe 12 Northridge, CA
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by bracketologist » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:52 pm

Under the Radar wrote:SurfCity March Classic sold out unless they get more fields. Monter wait list.... Teams listed first are in..

American Athletics Laguna Niguel, CA
Bomb Squad Anaheim, CA
Cal Stars Coast Orcutt, Ca
California Breeze 96 Elk Grove, CA
California Grapettes Stockton, Ca
California Rebels 12U Fullerton, CA
California Thunder 12U Hacienda Heights, CA
Corona Angels - Lockman 12U Corona, Ca
Corona Angels 12U - Knighten 12U Garden Grove, CA
Corona Xpress 12U Corona, CA
Desert Blaze 12U Adelanto, ca
Fresno Force 12U Visalia, Ca
Irvine Sting 12U Irvine, CA
Nemesis 12U Paramount, CA
OC Batbusters (Ray) 12U Yorba Linda, CA
OC Wildcats 96 Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
Raiders 96 Placentia, CA
Revenge 96 (Young) 12U Rancho Cucamonga, Ca

Sacramento Fire & Ice 12U Sacramento, CA
SAN DIEGO POWER SURGE 12U San Diego, Ca
So Cal Diamonds 97 - Cheek 12U Simi Valley, CA
USA Athletics Long Beach, CA
Valley Breeze Winnetka, CA



Teams listed below are on the Waiting List.


American Pastime 12 Ontario, CA
Firecrackers 96 12 Laguna Hills, CA
No Fear 96 12 Downey, California
O. C. Batbusters Lakewood, CA
OC Batbusters (Snow) 12 Chino Hills, CA

OC CRUSH 12 ORANGE, CA
Outlaws 12 Garden Grove, CA
So Cal JYNX 12U West Covina, CA
So Cal Mayhem 12 Westlake Village, CA
So-Cal Diamonds 96 Williams 12 Thousand Oaks, Ca
SoCal Wicked 12 Pico Rivera, CA
TNL 12U Temecula, Ca
Valley Tribe 12 Northridge, CA



Looking at this and the Fresno tourney, its now safe to say that the only place to see most of the top 12u teams together is at ASA state.

Someone should hold a tourney only for the teams on the waiting list..... that would be a great event!
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by Platinum » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:17 pm

I'll take a $5 exacta box on Bomb Squad 12u, Corona Angels 12U - Knighten & California Rebels 12U
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by JustWondering » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:42 pm

96 Scottsdale Fever Scottsdale, AZ
AMERICAN PASTIME LAKE ELSINORE, CA
Angels Centennial, Colorado
Az Killer Bees 96 Mesa, Az
Bomb Squad 97 Orange, CA
Bullpen Heat Lake Elsinore, CA
California Grapettes Stockton, Ca
Colorado Stampede Littleton, Colorado
Corona Xpress 96 Corona, CA
Desert Arsenal Henderson, NV
Desert Thunder 96 Tucson, AZ
Fresno Force Visalia, Ca
Fresno Wild Fresno, CA
Lil Rebels 96 Henderson, NV
lil saints 12u Phoenix, az
Minors Gold 97 Menifee, CA
Mizuno All American West Sacramento, Ca
OC Batbusters Ray Yorba Linda, Ca
Ozone Oceanside, Ca
Rage Navy North Las Vegas, NV
Raiders 96 Placentia, CA
Rocky Mountain Thunder Aurora, Colorado
San Diego Strokes Encinitas, CA
So Cal Crunch 96 Fontana, CA
SoCal Wicked Pico Rivera, CA
Team Arizona 97 Goodyear, AZ
TeamSmith 96 Chino HIlls, CA
teamSmith97 Corona, Ca
The Next Level Temecula, Ca
USA Athletics Long Beach, CA
Valley Tribe Northridge, CA

List of St. Paddys Day Blast in Vegas. Should be a good tourney.
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by onthejuice » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:06 pm

Any bold predictions?
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by hotwheels » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:09 pm

Xpress 96 ;)
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by AM Softball » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:29 pm

JustWondering wrote:96 Scottsdale Fever Scottsdale, AZ
AMERICAN PASTIME LAKE ELSINORE, CA
Angels Centennial, Colorado
Az Killer Bees 96 Mesa, Az
Bomb Squad 97 Orange, CA
Bullpen Heat Lake Elsinore, CA
California Grapettes Stockton, Ca
Colorado Stampede Littleton, Colorado
Corona Xpress 96 Corona, CA
Desert Arsenal Henderson, NV
Desert Thunder 96 Tucson, AZ
Fresno Force Visalia, Ca
Fresno Wild Fresno, CA
Lil Rebels 96 Henderson, NV
lil saints 12u Phoenix, az
Minors Gold 97 Menifee, CA
Mizuno All American West Sacramento, Ca
OC Batbusters Ray Yorba Linda, Ca
Ozone Oceanside, Ca
Rage Navy North Las Vegas, NV
Raiders 96 Placentia, CA
Rocky Mountain Thunder Aurora, Colorado
San Diego Strokes Encinitas, CA
So Cal Crunch 96 Fontana, CA
SoCal Wicked Pico Rivera, CA
Team Arizona 97 Goodyear, AZ
TeamSmith 96 Chino HIlls, CA
teamSmith97 Corona, Ca
The Next Level Temecula, Ca
USA Athletics Long Beach, CA
Valley Tribe Northridge, CA

List of St. Paddys Day Blast in Vegas. Should be a good tourney.


I cannot comment on the out of states teams cause you never know until you see them...but I'll take: Grapettes, Team Smith 96, Raiders (if Phil is there), and Valley Tribe. The Grapettes are well coached and disciplined, Team Smith has some great players, Phil brings the best out in his team (love him or hate him), and Valley Tribe seems to be the "sleeping sensation" right now...so those are my top 4 picks.

Colorado, NV, and AZ have good programs too so good luck to everyone! It's gonna be fun!
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by bracketologist » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:15 pm

hotwheels wrote:Xpress 96 ;)


Come on Hotwheels - we now expect Corona Xpress in the semi's! ;) PS. I have never seen a team hate pool play as much as you! But you will be in your element at ASA State!

I’ll hold off on the predictions until I see the schedule! Early take on this tournament!

Valley Tribe will have all the pressure to win this tourney! Not sure if they can do it – their friendly schedule has been a little troubling.

So Cal Crunch – They will have a bad bracket game offensively, can they win one on the defensive side… if so they are my favorites.

California Grapettes – Expect to see them in the semi’s.

Raiders 96 – Pitching is an issue right now (injuries) so reaching the semi’s would be a big deal.

TeamSmith 96 - Good enough to win the tourney, but I'll hold off - until I see their potential bracket.

TNL – If Jerry is coaching, they will start to make their move. Not sure if they are ready to win a tournament but they will make some noise and be in the next poll. Note: He knows the success formula in 12u - his goal is always a strong showing at ASA Nationals. Don't believe him if he tells you "next year we'll be a contender."

I also liked last years 96 Scottsdale Fever, if they have the same core – will be a contender.

I have the 8 above teams on my watch list, with the below teams - Most likely to send one or two of the above teams home!

OC Batbusters Ray – I didn't expect them to win - so bet the opposite!
Ozone - match up very well against Crunch, Raiders and TeamSmith pitchers - but the other 5 teams should handle them easy!
Wicked - good for one major upset!
Minors Gold 97 – The hardest place in the poll is near the bottom. Either they will get use to the pressure or could fall out of the poll. Some teams play better under the radar... and I think this is one of them! Capable of beating any of the top teams, but also capable of losing big to any of them.
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