so cal cif

[Tyler Durden]

I hope Northview gets their arse handed to 'em in the next round. Total cheese.

Ditto. Weak sauce.

[softball**mom]

After Aquinus pounded Northview 9-1 in D5 playoffs, Northview protested that Aquinus took illegal BP prior to game.

Pictures and story here
http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2013/05/29/8913/

That's BS. The rule doesn't specifically address hitting off a tee and is contradictory about it. I say it certainly meets the intention of the rule - no pitching motion from in front of the batter. They lifted the ball from the side - it shouldn't matter that they set it on a tee.

Batting practice will be construed as any type of pitching motion with ANY type of ball from in front of the batter (including pitching machines, underhand tossing, overhand throwing or pepper). The only acceptable batting warmup will be side soft toss. The player who tosses the ball should be on a knee and to the side of the batter. The ball should be lifted, not pitched, to the batter.

If they used a tee, they will be DQ'd. A team last year used three tees to warm up, but they ended up losing so it was a non-issue, but the CIF official ruled if they had won, they would have been disqualified. A couple parents had the warm up on video. Only side toss is allowed, period. It is a BS rule, but CIF has good reason why they enforce it.

Actually, the rule does specifically state no tee, and no standing for the side toss. Here is the direct quote from this year's playoff bulletin:

BATTING PRACTICE – Includes bunting or slap hitting.
Teams entered in the softball playoffs WILL NOT be
permitted to take batting practice on the day of the
scheduled contest. Batting practice will be construed as any
type of pitching motion with ANY type of ball from in front
of the batter (including batting “T”, pitching machines,
underhand tossing, overhand throwing or pepper). THE
ONLY ACCEPTABLE BATTING WARMUP WILL BE
SIDE SOFT TOSS.
The player who tosses the ball must not be standing, they
must be sitting or on a knee directly to the side facing the
batter. The ball should be lifted, not pitched, to the batter.


Two years in a row the last team we played in playoffs violated the above rule - one team using tees and the other where the tosser was standing. Powers that be said we wouldn't protest. Next year I will volunteer to drive our opponents to batting cages before the game.

I don't think the rule makes any sense, but it's a rule. Did our team lose because of the other team's illegal batting, doubt it. But it's a rule. If the shoe were on the proverbial other foot would our opponents have reported us, most likely. Am I still kinda p.o.'d about it, yep - but I think more about our team's lack of effort and rookie mistakes than the other team breaking a rule. OK I feel better now.

[PDad]

After Aquinus pounded Northview 9-1 in D5 playoffs, Northview protested that Aquinus took illegal BP prior to game.

Pictures and story here
http://www.insidesocal.com/tribpreps/2013/05/29/8913/

That's BS. The rule doesn't specifically address hitting off a tee and is contradictory about it. I say it certainly meets the intention of the rule - no pitching motion from in front of the batter. They lifted the ball from the side - it shouldn't matter that they set it on a tee.

Batting practice will be construed as any type of pitching motion with ANY type of ball from in front of the batter (including pitching machines, underhand tossing, overhand throwing or pepper). The only acceptable batting warmup will be side soft toss. The player who tosses the ball should be on a knee and to the side of the batter. The ball should be lifted, not pitched, to the batter.

Actually, the rule does specifically state no tee, and no standing for the side toss. Here is the direct quote from this year's playoff bulletin:

BATTING PRACTICE – Includes bunting or slap hitting. Teams entered in the softball playoffs WILL NOT be permitted to take batting practice on the day of the scheduled contest. Batting practice will be construed as any type of pitching motion with ANY type of ball from in front of the batter (including batting “T”, pitching machines, underhand tossing, overhand throwing or pepper). THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE BATTING WARMUP WILL BE SIDE SOFT TOSS. The player who tosses the ball must not be standing, they must be sitting or on a knee directly to the side facing the batter. The ball should be lifted, not pitched, to the batter. ...

My bad, the Playoff Bulletin did include tees. The CIF-SS release regarding the DQ of Shadow Hills did not and that is apparently where tribpreps got its quote. What rationale does softball have for banning tees if side soft toss is allowed? Baseball has basically the same rule and they allow tees.

The real rule breakers are teams that take full-on BP earlier in the day. A baseball team got busted several years ago for taking BP at their field before traveling to the game.

[NumeroUno]

cif updates?

who played in each division and who won

[NumeroUno]

thanks