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by jonriv » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:09 pm

They said it was mental issues based on his actual history

I think the number is something like 80% of all mass killings are done by mentally ill individuals- 60% who got their guns legally

Perhaps more should be done prevent the mentally ill from obtaining firearms(something the NRA supports , but mental health advocates fight)

I may have been premeditated, but by a disturbed mind with a shaky at best moral compass. I am not giving this guy or any other's like him an out, just that if we know the cause we have a better chance of figuring out how to prevent them in the future
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by as the world turns » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:32 pm

jonriv wrote:They said it was mental issues based on his actual history

I think the number is something like 80% of all mass killings are done by mentally ill individuals- 60% who got their guns legally

Perhaps more should be done prevent the mentally ill from obtaining firearms(something the NRA supports , but mental health advocates fight)

I may have been premeditated, but by a disturbed mind with a shaky at best moral compass. I am not giving this guy or any other's like him an out, just that if we know the cause we have a better chance of figuring out how to prevent them in the future

This guy woke up, had a plan, killed mom at home, drove mom's car to mom's school, shot mom's boss, shot every one of mom's students, then took his life. It was premeditated and he saw his plan through. Society's ills creates mental illness, what people experience in life creates mental illness, add Hollywood's crap to a weak mind and we get what happened today.
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by as the world turns » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:34 pm

jonriv wrote:My point is- if mental illness or problems are involved-moral fiber has nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it, they are connected.
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by ontheblack » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:34 pm

as the world turns wrote:
jonriv wrote:My point is- if mental illness or problems are involved-moral fiber has nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it, they are connected.


They are connected to a point. Bri Williams' brother was mentally ill, but also one with a belief in God. It made what happened there even more tragic.

I have no problem piling on the Hollywood crap though. It is desensitizing at best.
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by Dugout Dad » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:49 pm

ontheblack wrote:
as the world turns wrote:
jonriv wrote:My point is- if mental illness or problems are involved-moral fiber has nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it, they are connected.


They are connected to a point. Bri Williams' brother was mentally ill, but also one with a belief in God. It made what happened there even more tragic.

I have no problem piling on the Hollywood crap though. It is desensitizing at best.

I did not know that about Bri's brother, sigh.......

Hollywood does give an unstable person a "how to" manual.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:17 pm

So ... If more people believed in God there would be less violence ? :roll: ... Fewer problems ? :roll: Many a fight or war came to be because of differing religious beliefs ... Many nut-bags believe they are doing the work of a superior being that they believe in ... And then there is the 'shake your hand on Sunday stab your back on Monday type' ? ... This dude was a fu*kin' wacko, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Atheist or whatever ... JMO
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by NumeroUno » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:36 pm

Well G if more people believed in God ya there would be less violence, and I am not talking about Muslim's belief. If you are taught to fear what happens after death maybe these idiots would think twice about there actions. Oh poor guys was depressed, so what everyone gets down every now and then. Maybe he should have got his stupid ass to church. What a coward
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by Dugout Dad » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:55 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:So ... If more people believed in God there would be less violence ? :roll: ... Fewer problems ? :roll: Many a fight or war came to be because of differing religious beliefs ... Many nut-bags believe they are doing the work of a superior being that they believe in ... And then there is the 'shake your hand on Sunday stab your back on Monday type' ? ... This dude was a fu*kin' wacko, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Atheist or whatever ... JMO

I think the Ten Commandments are a good guideline for society, the world would be a better place if people just tried to follow them, don't you think? ACLU, Liberals and Progressives hate looking at them. Why? Being in softball, #4 is not alway followed, but we try.

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6 “You shall not murder.

7 “You shall not commit adultery.

8 “You shall not steal.

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10 “You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
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by BearsDad » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:14 pm

HUG YOUR KIDS !!!!!!!!!!

I couldn't stop thinking about my kids this afternoon. I can not begin to fathom the pain these families are going through.

We can argue back and for all night... just pray for these families and

HUG YOUR KIDS !!!!!!!!!!
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by NumeroUno » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:23 pm

I agree :D
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