NEW ASA POLICY ON SELECTING USA SOFTBALL JUNIOR TEAM

[fastpitchdad05]

And judging from the Colorado pics he shared he's also very good at finding the good fishing holes.

[thecloser02]

Uno is absolutely correct with the rise of PGF it gives a lot of B teams the opportunity to play in a ASA national tournament. Some of the organizations that now have qualified for ASA nationals have never qualified before. Thanks PGF and ASA for giving some B teams a piece of the pie.

With Triple Crown having a national tourney that will give Trophy Hunter's C team the opportunity to see what nationals feels like

[NumeroUno]

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said B team

[Trophy Hunter]

TH everyone has an opinion but that doesn't mean you are always right. I know for a fact that you are wrong saying that pgf schduled qualifiers the same day as asa on purpose. Once high school season is over there are only so many weekends to get all the qualifiers in. I have nothing against asa i loved every nationals I went to.

One thing no one talks about is how many more teams now have the chance to play in a national tourney now that pgf rose up. With no pgf all those berths asa has would be swallowed up by Crackers, Athletics, Angels, Explosion, Batbusters etc.

So what you're saying is that when PGF scheduled their qualifier on the same weekend ASA had scheduled theirs, it was a coincidence?

What was happening all the other weekends?
Surf City showcases? And who runs Surf City? Yes, Haning and Hay, the same guys who run PGF! What a stunning coincidence!
SoCals Finest Showcases? Run by the their good buddies (and PGF invitees) Minors Gold andFirecrackers! It's important not to conflict with that burgeoning enterprise, right?
Since you know for a fact there were no other weekends available, you must also know what events were scheduled all those other weekends. Maybe you could share that info with all of us less informed, please.

How is it that Surf City and SoCals Finest can schedule their showcases a year in advance and yet there is never a conflict? Never a single "coincidence?"

Since PGF and Surf City are both run by Haning and Hay, why can't they schedule their PGF qualifier a year in advance? They schedule their big tournament (or showcase, as Dan Hay recently referred to it) a year in advance, don't they?

The fact is these guys are experts at scheduling softball events and avoiding conflicts with other events. Except when? Except when the conflict is with an ASA event.

In the end, your "fact" as stated earlier is nothing but whitewash. PGF could have scheduled their qualifier on almost any weekend they wanted to. They chose that particular weekend because it didn't interfere with their other moneymaking business, and the business of their friends. Their decision to schedule a conflict with ASA wasn't guided by the best interest of the players, but rather by the best interest of their business, pure and simple.

[Trophy Hunter]

Uno is absolutely correct with the rise of PGF it gives a lot of B teams the opportunity to play in a ASA national tournament. Some of the organizations that now have qualified for ASA nationals have never qualified before. Thanks PGF and ASA for giving some B teams a piece of the pie.

With Triple Crown having a national tourney that will give Trophy Hunter's C team the opportunity to see what nationals feels like

That's hilarious, considering I don't have a team! And my daughter has played PGFsince it came into existence! What's even more hilarious are the teams going to TCS "C" tournament, as you call it: Worth Firecrackers, CATyson, GoldCoastHurricanes, etc. You sure are well informed!

[Trophy Hunter]

Hey TH,
What about ASA changing thier qualifier dates to go head to head with a PGF event? It happened this year.
Heck, ASA even schedules events that conflict with themselves. Happens almost every year in SOCal.
As UNO said, there are only so many weekends in June and the beginning of July.

We all know that ASA is probably in a class of their own when it comes to idiotic moves. This thread wouldn't exist otherwise!

[NumeroUno]

You can think you are right all you want but you're wrong. For one thing PGF is a new business, they are still looking for teams and areas to host qualifiers. I will say this for the last time after high school the available weekends to hold qualifiers are very limited so no matter how hard anyone tries to not step on toes there is no way to avoid it. Sure in a perfect world no qualifiers or tourneys will over lap but that just doesn't happen.

It is a very small crowd that is complaining and bashing like you do. In fact it isn't even a crowd it is a few people. PGF and ASA cannot make everyone happy no one can. I don't care what they do there will always be a few people to find something to nag about. I would be willing to bet if your team qualified or got a free berth to PGF you would be as quite as a canary.

One more thing, remember all that talk about having to use your SS# to register for PGF. So PGF changed it and let people have a choice of SS# or birth certificate. Well last I heard about 95% of the people used the SS# to register after all that. So once again is was only a few people complaining about the SS# policy which I understood the concerns about it.

[ontheblack]

TH, why keep beating a dead horse? PGF and ASA are now competitors. Period. The founders of PGF went this route after years of pleading with ASA to make some changes.

Teams now make informed choices about where they want to play. They roll the dice and chase the berth that they want. In California and AZ, the clear choice among the better teams has been PGF. With one exception that I know of, teams that have earned or have been invited to PGF that have also earned an ASA berth have not turned down PGF for ASA. (edited)

If a team wanted an easy shot at ASA they had the Disney qualifier.

BTW, your logical fallacies have gotten old. Beating on PGF in this thread doesnt justify in any way ASA's actions WRT to the JNT.

[thecloser02]

Uno is absolutely correct with the rise of PGF it gives a lot of B teams the opportunity to play in a ASA national tournament. Some of the organizations that now have qualified for ASA nationals have never qualified before. Thanks PGF and ASA for giving some B teams a piece of the pie.

With Triple Crown having a national tourney that will give Trophy Hunter's C team the opportunity to see what nationals feels like

That's hilarious, considering I don't have a team! And my daughter has played PGFsince it came into existence! What's even more hilarious are the teams going to TCS "C" tournament, as you call it: Worth Firecrackers, CATyson, GoldCoastHurricanes, etc. You sure are well informed!

I was joking about TC being a C event dork, I know who is going to NYC

I don't believe you for one bit that your daughter's teams has made it to PGF, that is why you are so salty.

[Trophy Hunter]

Uno is absolutely correct with the rise of PGF it gives a lot of B teams the opportunity to play in a ASA national tournament. Some of the organizations that now have qualified for ASA nationals have never qualified before. Thanks PGF and ASA for giving some B teams a piece of the pie.

With Triple Crown having a national tourney that will give Trophy Hunter's C team the opportunity to see what nationals feels like

That's hilarious, considering I don't have a team! And my daughter has played PGFsince it came into existence! What's even more hilarious are the teams going to TCS "C" tournament, as you call it: Worth Firecrackers, CATyson, GoldCoastHurricanes, etc. You sure are well informed!

I was joking about TC being a C event dork, I know who is going to NYC

I don't believe you for one bit that your daughter's teams has made it to PGF, that is why you are so salty.

Once again, poorly informed. But keep taking potshots at her and her teammates, it speaks volumes about your character.