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PGF 2011 - Review and Discussion

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by ontheblack » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:16 am

dirtlover wrote:Not saying PGF is better but a smaller tourney with more competative games and way more exposure, hell I would travel to FL for that. Just sayin.....


So would the naysayers if they were objective and understood what they were missing.
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by Battle » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:03 pm

dirtlover wrote:So it sounds like the haters want to call PGF a state tourney. Cali formed Cali based right? Well I don't think anyone would call ASA the USA nationals without the top Cali teams there. We all know that there are great teams from all over the country but saying they don't want to travel west as it is too expensive but we should travel to where TN? Why, because it's cheaper for us? What? I don't follow, maybe I,m just a little slower than you guys but when I see a line of scouts waiting to watch our girls play against one of the best teams in the western US it doesn't make me want to be in TN or IL or AL to watch our girls play a team from MN with maybe 1 scout due to the eventual route. Not saying PGF is better but a smaller tourney with more competative games and way more exposure, hell I would travel to FL for that. Just sayin.....

Are you saying that it's not Cali based? I can only speak for 16u, but when I looked around at the stands, there were so many D1 coaches that I couldn't count them all. ASA will do fine without Cali teams. Stay playing your so called national/showcase because this year it was a Cali team that won the USA National...TNL. Anybody else just played a 2nd rate showcase..I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.
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by Battle » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:10 pm

ontheblack wrote:
dirtlover wrote:Not saying PGF is better but a smaller tourney with more competative games and way more exposure, hell I would travel to FL for that. Just sayin.....


So would the naysayers if they were objective and understood what they were missing.

Why don't you make it a 10 team national. That way you could be done it 2 days instead of 5. That would make it that much better, wouldn't it? :roll:

I know exactly what we missed. We missed the 2nd best because we wanted to go to the best national. Just like we missed all the other sanctioned nationals. We wanted to go to the best and ASA was it in 16u this year.

I just hate that Texas Glory settled for PGF this year. Really a shame IMO.
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by CFBFAN » Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:22 pm

So if most of the teams were from the left coast (or close), what can be done to convince the teams that played in qualifiers to come to PGF? I noticed that the qualifiers on the East coast and TX had very few teams that qualified actually show up, especially at 14U. Also if you played in a qualifier for PGF and got the berth why not come to sunny SoCal?
Not sure how many D-1 scouts were at ASA 14 Nats, but it was very impressive to see the bunches that were out and about at Harvard Park.
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by ontheblack » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:23 pm

Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!
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by sofbal1234 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:56 pm

ontheblack wrote:Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!

Hey Battle... looks like you losing this uphill of a battle argument/discussion! Just sayin :D
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by NumeroUno » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:01 pm

ontheblack wrote:Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!



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by Battle » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:18 pm

sofbal1234 wrote:
ontheblack wrote:Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!

Hey Battle... looks like you losing this uphill of a battle argument/discussion! Just sayin :D

LOL...I'm not losing anything. Ontheblack says "a Cali team won" and I believe that I've already said that. As far as not being that best team in SoCal, he is correct. TNL is not only the best team in SoCal, they are the best team in the country because they won the ASA 16U. Your PGF winner would have made the top 5 but probably wouldn't have won it. Your PGF 2nd place finishers and down, would have been lucky just to make the top 5 including your so called best Cali teams. Now I'm not saying...I'm just sayin...
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by NumeroUno » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:23 pm

Battle wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:
ontheblack wrote:Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!

Hey Battle... looks like you losing this uphill of a battle argument/discussion! Just sayin :D

LOL...I'm not losing anything. Ontheblack says "a Cali team won" and I believe that I've already said that. As far as not being that best team in SoCal, he is correct. TNL is not only the best team in SoCal, they are the best team in the country because they won the ASA 16U. Your PGF winner would have made the top 5 but probably wouldn't have won it. Your PGF 2nd place finishers and down, would have been lucky just to make the top 5 including your so called best Cali teams. Now I'm not saying...I'm just sayin...



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by Battle » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:27 pm

NumeroUno wrote:
Battle wrote:
sofbal1234 wrote:
ontheblack wrote:Your "best" National was won by a California team that not everyone in CA would agree was the best SoCal team.

What you got was a lesson that SoCal can keep most of their best teams home and still take ASA!

Hey Battle... looks like you losing this uphill of a battle argument/discussion! Just sayin :D

LOL...I'm not losing anything. Ontheblack says "a Cali team won" and I believe that I've already said that. As far as not being that best team in SoCal, he is correct. TNL is not only the best team in SoCal, they are the best team in the country because they won the ASA 16U. Your PGF winner would have made the top 5 but probably wouldn't have won it. Your PGF 2nd place finishers and down, would have been lucky just to make the top 5 including your so called best Cali teams. Now I'm not saying...I'm just sayin...


Firecrackers Blanco, Corona Angels, So Cal Athletics and Bat Busters Doug all could have won ASA 16U

Did they play 16U PGF?
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