As a team that played in the Fireworks the last 2 years, once in 12 then in 14's the next year, the competition is much better in the fireworks vs. the sparkler. At the 14u level, about 40% of the teams at the fireworks went right to georgia a month later and competed at the ASA nationals, as opposed to about 5% of the teams from the sparkler. That alone should tell you which tournament has stiffer competition. Like earlier mentioned by someone, depends on what you are looking for, fun or grit.... pick your poison.
You could always attend TCS in park city, utah.
txfastptch...I also heard that earlier this year that the champions from each age group would play the champinons from the opposing tourn, sparkler vs. fireworks....i put my money on the fireworks.
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- AZsbcoach
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For the 14U, I am putting my money on the Sparkler winning that one..
# 6 or #16 Firecrackers(which ever one it is) #9 and #17 Batbusters, #31 USA Athletics, #34 Punishers. Not to mention some well deserving Texas teams that might make a good run. I dont know your rankings, guess bracketologist only does California
Fireworks has #26, Rebels and thats the only team from California that has signed up as of yet. You have a few good teams from Georgia and Texas in it, but where the majority of the California top #35 go, that is where the competition will be. No offense to the rest of the USA, but California is where the level of play is set and the teams that want to get better go play there or them abroad...JMO
# 6 or #16 Firecrackers(which ever one it is) #9 and #17 Batbusters, #31 USA Athletics, #34 Punishers. Not to mention some well deserving Texas teams that might make a good run. I dont know your rankings, guess bracketologist only does California
Fireworks has #26, Rebels and thats the only team from California that has signed up as of yet. You have a few good teams from Georgia and Texas in it, but where the majority of the California top #35 go, that is where the competition will be. No offense to the rest of the USA, but California is where the level of play is set and the teams that want to get better go play there or them abroad...JMO
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- lvtwft
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OK, I'll give you the 14u, should be a battle though depending on which Ga or Tx teams show up to play, the 16 and 18 should go in favor of the fireworks, again, just depends on which teams show up to play. As we all know, any team, any given day.
Good luck to all and safe travels where ever everybody is going this summer.
Good luck to all and safe travels where ever everybody is going this summer.
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- AZsbcoach
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Wildcat wrote:I have always heard that the Colorado Fireworks was a better recruiting tournament than the Colorado Sparkler. When you look at the college coaches that attended each, the fireworks has more D1 colleges represented and the Sparkler more junior colleges. And on a thread here on HB "Fireworks vs. Sparkler" the general consensus was in favor of the Fireworks.
Before everyone starts bashing me, I know that minimal recruiting is being done in the 14U division but why are most of the California 14U teams going to the sparkler instead of the Fireworks?
Could any of the teams listed below going to the sparkler care to comment.
Colorado Fireworks
California Rebels – Bellflower - California
Colorado Sparkler
OC Batbusters - Steve - California
Mizuno Pride - California
OC Nighthawks - California
OC Batbusters Ray - California
South Bay Stars - California
California TNT - California
Lakewood Firecrackers Painter - California
Roseville Heat - California
East Bat Thunda Stryke - California
East County Hotshots - California
Lady Magic - California
Huntington Beach Breeze - California
Artesia Punishers - California
American Athletics - California
San Jose Sting – California
Salinas Storm Bramers - California
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Update for Sparkler
12U (Full) 12 States Represented
1. OKLAHOMA HOTSHOTS - OKLAHOMA
2. COLORADO STARS SELECT - COLORADO
3. TEXAS PEPPERS 98 - TEXAS
4. WASCO DIAMONDS - ILLINOIS
5. LADY BOMBERS - COLORADO
6. CRUSH - COLORADO
7. COLORADO STARS 97 - COLORADO
8. ARCTIC STORM - ALASKA
9. UTAH HOTSHOTZ - UTAH
10. 98 TEXAS RIP - TEXAS
11. NC XPLOSION - COLORADO
12. COMMOTION - COLORADO
13. ULTIMATE FASTPITCH - OKLAHOMA
14. CS THUNDER - COLORADO
15. KC VANDALS - KANSAS
16. STINGERS - COLORADO
17. COLORADO LYNX - COLORADO
18. HUMBLE COBRAS - TEXAS
19. D BATS - ALLEN - TEXAS
20. XTREME HEAT - CALIFORNIA
21. FIREBIRDS - BALBIN - COLORADO
22. MUSKOGEE IMPACT - OKLAHOMA
23. FC STARS - AUGIE - COLORADO
24. MIZUNO PRIDE 97 - CALIFORNIA
25. AZ WILDFIRE - ARIZONA
26. PSYCLONES BLUE - COLORADO
27. MAJESTIX FIRE - COLORADO
28. DALLAS TIGERS - BURCHFIELD - TEXAS
29. WARRIORS 97 - COLORADO
30. ANGELS 97 - COLORADO
31. AFTERSHOCK 98 - TEXAS
32. TEAM ARIZONA - ARIZONA
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14U (Full) 25 States Represented
1. ARCTIC STORM - ALASKA
2. LADY GRAYS - COLORADO
3. DESERT THUNDER 96 - ARIZONA
4. AZ DYNASTY - ARIZONA
5. AZ CATS 96 - ARIZONA
6. CS THUNDER - COLORADO
7. LAKEWODD FIRECRACKERS - CALIFORNIA
8. ROSEVILLE HEAT - CALIFORNIA
9. LADY MAGIC - CALIFORNIA
10. AMERICAN ATHLETICS - CALIFORNIA
11. SAN JOSE STING - CALIFORNIA
12. SALINAS STORM - CAILFORNIA
13. IV ECLIPSE - CALIFORNIA
14. SOCAL LADY OUTLAWS - CALIFORNIA
15. SAN JOSE STING - SCNELL - CALIFORNIA
16. EAST COUNTY HOT SHOTS - CALIFORNIA
17. COLORADO STARS - CRAIG - COLORADO
18. HITSREAK INFERNO - COLORADO
19. OUTLAWS - RED - COLORADO
20. CRUSH - COLORADO
21. ARVADA BLUE JAYS - COLORADO
22. FC STARS - ANGELICA - COLORADO
23. STINGERS - COLORADO
24. COLORADO CARDINALS - COLORADO
25. PONY EXPRESS COLTS - COLORADO
26. COMMOTION - DURAN - COLORADO
27. DIRT DEVILS - COLORADO
28. ROCKY MOUNTAIN THUNDER - COLORADO
29. PARKER THUNDERHAWKS - COLORADO
30. LOVELAND RAGE - COLORADO
31. PSYCLONES SILVER - COLORADO
32. MAJESTIX FIRE - COLORADO
33. NORTHWEST WILDFIRE - IDAHO
34. WASCO DIAMONDS - ILLINOIS
35. OLATHE ROCKETS - KANSAS
36. KC FIRE - KANSAS
37. LOUISIANNA PATRIOTS - LOUISIANNA
38. LADY HUSTLERS - LOUISIANNA
39. VOODOO - LOUISIANNA
40. MN STING - MINNESOTA
41. KC ELITE - MISSOURI
42. OMAHA SIZZLE RED - NEBRASKA
43. DALLAS TIGERS - TEXAS
44. NM SOL - NEW MEXICO
45. OKLAHOMA DYNAMITE - OKLAHOMA
46. OKLAHOMA FINISH - OKLAHOMA
47. BLAZE - WOOD 95 - OREGON
48. TENNESSEE DIAMONDS 95 - TENNESSEE
49. SUN DEVILS - TEXAS
50. CARDINALS - COLORADO
51. HUMBLE COBRAS - TEXAS
52. TEXAS HAWKS - TEXAS
53. DC JETS - COLORADO
54. FW BATBUSTERS - TEXAS
55. 96 TEXAS PEPPERS - TEXAS
56. TEXAS TROUBLE CLAY - TEXAS
57. AUSTINS FINEST 96 - TEXAS
58. PURE ADRENALINE - ARIZONA
59. OC BATBUSTERS - STEVE - CALIFORNIA
60. COLORADO HEAT - COLORADO
61. COLORADO MAGIC - COLORADO
62. UTAH CHARGE - UTAH
63. OKLAHOMA ELITE - OKLAHOMA
64. BULLETS - COLORADO
65. FIREBIRDS - HORAN - COLORADO
66. TEXAS GLORY - TEXAS
67. COLORADO COMETS - COLORADO
68. TEXAS SHOCKWAVE BLUE
69. DIRTY DOGZ - NEW MEXICO
70. TUCSON AZTECS - ARIZONA
71. TEXAS STING WHITE - TEXAS
72. FC STARS - COLORADO
73. RALSTON RAGE - NEBRASKA
74. COLORADO FIGHTING IRISH - COLORADO
75. NEVADA LIGHTENING - VARGAS - NEVADA
76. WITCHITA IMPACT - KANSAS
77. OKLAHOMA XCELERATION - OKLAHOMA
78. ANGELS 96 - COLORADO
79. THUNDERHAWKS - ELLIOTT - ARIZONA
80. EAST COBB BULLETS - WALTERS - GEORGIA
81. LADYCATS - ALEXANDER - TEXAS
82. MINNESOTA WICKED - MINNESOTA
83. COLORADO LYNX - COLORADO
84. COMMOTION RAINES - COLORADO
85. EAST BAY THUNDA STRYKE - CALIFORNIA
86. AZ SHOCKWAVE - ARIZONA
87. TUCSON DESERT SCORPIONS - ARIZONA
88. WARRIORS WOLFPACK - COLORADO
89. FUSION - NEW MEXICO
90. 95 DESERT WOLVES - ARIZONA
91. TOP FUEL - TEXAS
92. SOUTH TEXAS MOJO - TEXAS
It's amazing what you hear and see at "THE SNACKBAR"
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snackbar - Posts: 51
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Fireworks is better established, gets the better fields (by far - the TCS fields are horrid), better blues, and Fireworks gets the best teams (regardless of where the CA teams are going, overall, the best teams are in Fireworks).
Would be interested to learn if the CA teams weren't approved by Fireworks and are going to TCS Money Grab just to be going somewhere.
Also interesting that so may CA teams that should Qual for Nats are going to another costly tourney 3 weeks before The Show? I'd wager that many of them entered, but few have committed (paid) yet.
Would be interested to learn if the CA teams weren't approved by Fireworks and are going to TCS Money Grab just to be going somewhere.
Also interesting that so may CA teams that should Qual for Nats are going to another costly tourney 3 weeks before The Show? I'd wager that many of them entered, but few have committed (paid) yet.
Don't worry about tomorrow. You did that yesterday.
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anonlooker - Posts: 3114
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anonlooker wrote:I'm stunned that all those CA teams are going to the Sparkler. As Spazsdad noted, it's nothing more than another TCS event, and by the looks of it, the same teams will be playing each other... again!
DD went to 14u Fireworks a couple years back, we were the only CA team, many from TX and eastern teams (NJ, VA, etc). Great tournament in every respect, has a national feel to it with teams from all over. And also might help pave the way for a team looking to play in the Fireworks in the upper age groups down the road. (BB, CA et al may have 'established' covered, but many teams do not)
Going to CO to play the TCS event just doesn't make much sense. It will be the least attended by college coaches, who are already familiar with Fireworks, Aurora, Boulder - not so much Sparkler, which is really just a money play by TCS to capitalize on the well established Fireworks.
One reason may be that the Fireworks accepts teams that have been before, or teams they are familiar with, and since the 14u operates separately from the older brackets, it may be that they turned down the CA teams (for whatever reason).
From what I know the Fireworks is the better tournament and if your organization did good in the past you get accepted to play in the tournament again period point blank! If any CA teams got in and did well they will get accept to play again at the tournament.
It's amazing what you hear and see at "THE SNACKBAR"
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snackbar - Posts: 51
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snackbar wrote:Wildcat wrote:I have always heard that the Colorado Fireworks was a better recruiting tournament than the Colorado Sparkler. When you look at the college coaches that attended each, the fireworks has more D1 colleges represented and the Sparkler more junior colleges. And on a thread here on HB "Fireworks vs. Sparkler" the general consensus was in favor of the Fireworks.
Before everyone starts bashing me, I know that minimal recruiting is being done in the 14U division but why are most of the California 14U teams going to the sparkler instead of the Fireworks?
Could any of the teams listed below going to the sparkler care to comment.
Colorado Fireworks
California Rebels – Bellflower - California
Colorado Sparkler
OC Batbusters - Steve - California
Mizuno Pride - California
OC Nighthawks - California
OC Batbusters Ray - California
South Bay Stars - California
California TNT - California
Lakewood Firecrackers Painter - California
Roseville Heat - California
East Bat Thunda Stryke - California
East County Hotshots - California
Lady Magic - California
Huntington Beach Breeze - California
Artesia Punishers - California
American Athletics - California
San Jose Sting – California
Salinas Storm Bramers - California
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Update for Sparkler
12U (Full) 12 States Represented
1. OKLAHOMA HOTSHOTS - OKLAHOMA
2. COLORADO STARS SELECT - COLORADO
3. TEXAS PEPPERS 98 - TEXAS
4. WASCO DIAMONDS - ILLINOIS
5. LADY BOMBERS - COLORADO
6. CRUSH - COLORADO
7. COLORADO STARS 97 - COLORADO
8. ARCTIC STORM - ALASKA
9. UTAH HOTSHOTZ - UTAH
10. 98 TEXAS RIP - TEXAS
11. NC XPLOSION - COLORADO
12. COMMOTION - COLORADO
13. ULTIMATE FASTPITCH - OKLAHOMA
14. CS THUNDER - COLORADO
15. KC VANDALS - KANSAS
16. STINGERS - COLORADO
17. COLORADO LYNX - COLORADO
18. HUMBLE COBRAS - TEXAS
19. D BATS - ALLEN - TEXAS
20. XTREME HEAT - CALIFORNIA
21. FIREBIRDS - BALBIN - COLORADO
22. MUSKOGEE IMPACT - OKLAHOMA
23. FC STARS - AUGIE - COLORADO
24. MIZUNO PRIDE 97 - CALIFORNIA
25. AZ WILDFIRE - ARIZONA
26. PSYCLONES BLUE - COLORADO
27. MAJESTIX FIRE - COLORADO
28. DALLAS TIGERS - BURCHFIELD - TEXAS
29. WARRIORS 97 - COLORADO
30. ANGELS 97 - COLORADO
31. AFTERSHOCK 98 - TEXAS
32. TEAM ARIZONA - ARIZONA
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14U (Full) 25 States Represented
1. ARCTIC STORM - ALASKA
2. LADY GRAYS - COLORADO
3. DESERT THUNDER 96 - ARIZONA
4. AZ DYNASTY - ARIZONA
5. AZ CATS 96 - ARIZONA
6. CS THUNDER - COLORADO
7. LAKEWODD FIRECRACKERS - CALIFORNIA
8. ROSEVILLE HEAT - CALIFORNIA
9. LADY MAGIC - CALIFORNIA
10. AMERICAN ATHLETICS - CALIFORNIA
11. SAN JOSE STING - CALIFORNIA
12. SALINAS STORM - CAILFORNIA
13. IV ECLIPSE - CALIFORNIA
14. SOCAL LADY OUTLAWS - CALIFORNIA
15. SAN JOSE STING - SCNELL - CALIFORNIA
16. EAST COUNTY HOT SHOTS - CALIFORNIA
17. COLORADO STARS - CRAIG - COLORADO
18. HITSREAK INFERNO - COLORADO
19. OUTLAWS - RED - COLORADO
20. CRUSH - COLORADO
21. ARVADA BLUE JAYS - COLORADO
22. FC STARS - ANGELICA - COLORADO
23. STINGERS - COLORADO
24. COLORADO CARDINALS - COLORADO
25. PONY EXPRESS COLTS - COLORADO
26. COMMOTION - DURAN - COLORADO
27. DIRT DEVILS - COLORADO
28. ROCKY MOUNTAIN THUNDER - COLORADO
29. PARKER THUNDERHAWKS - COLORADO
30. LOVELAND RAGE - COLORADO
31. PSYCLONES SILVER - COLORADO
32. MAJESTIX FIRE - COLORADO
33. NORTHWEST WILDFIRE - IDAHO
34. WASCO DIAMONDS - ILLINOIS
35. OLATHE ROCKETS - KANSAS
36. KC FIRE - KANSAS
37. LOUISIANNA PATRIOTS - LOUISIANNA
38. LADY HUSTLERS - LOUISIANNA
39. VOODOO - LOUISIANNA
40. MN STING - MINNESOTA
41. KC ELITE - MISSOURI
42. OMAHA SIZZLE RED - NEBRASKA
43. DALLAS TIGERS - TEXAS
44. NM SOL - NEW MEXICO
45. OKLAHOMA DYNAMITE - OKLAHOMA
46. OKLAHOMA FINISH - OKLAHOMA
47. BLAZE - WOOD 95 - OREGON
48. TENNESSEE DIAMONDS 95 - TENNESSEE
49. SUN DEVILS - TEXAS
50. CARDINALS - COLORADO
51. HUMBLE COBRAS - TEXAS
52. TEXAS HAWKS - TEXAS
53. DC JETS - COLORADO
54. FW BATBUSTERS - TEXAS
55. 96 TEXAS PEPPERS - TEXAS
56. TEXAS TROUBLE CLAY - TEXAS
57. AUSTINS FINEST 96 - TEXAS
58. PURE ADRENALINE - ARIZONA
59. OC BATBUSTERS - STEVE - CALIFORNIA
60. COLORADO HEAT - COLORADO
61. COLORADO MAGIC - COLORADO
62. UTAH CHARGE - UTAH
63. OKLAHOMA ELITE - OKLAHOMA
64. BULLETS - COLORADO
65. FIREBIRDS - HORAN - COLORADO
66. TEXAS GLORY - TEXAS
67. COLORADO COMETS - COLORADO
68. TEXAS SHOCKWAVE BLUE
69. DIRTY DOGZ - NEW MEXICO
70. TUCSON AZTECS - ARIZONA
71. TEXAS STING WHITE - TEXAS
72. FC STARS - COLORADO
73. RALSTON RAGE - NEBRASKA
74. COLORADO FIGHTING IRISH - COLORADO
75. NEVADA LIGHTENING - VARGAS - NEVADA
76. WITCHITA IMPACT - KANSAS
77. OKLAHOMA XCELERATION - OKLAHOMA
78. ANGELS 96 - COLORADO
79. THUNDERHAWKS - ELLIOTT - ARIZONA
80. EAST COBB BULLETS - WALTERS - GEORGIA
81. LADYCATS - ALEXANDER - TEXAS
82. MINNESOTA WICKED - MINNESOTA
83. COLORADO LYNX - COLORADO
84. COMMOTION RAINES - COLORADO
85. EAST BAY THUNDA STRYKE - CALIFORNIA
86. AZ SHOCKWAVE - ARIZONA
87. TUCSON DESERT SCORPIONS - ARIZONA
88. WARRIORS WOLFPACK - COLORADO
89. FUSION - NEW MEXICO
90. 95 DESERT WOLVES - ARIZONA
91. TOP FUEL - TEXAS
92. SOUTH TEXAS MOJO - TEXAS
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Look like CA Rebels 14U are doing pretty good. Has anyone else heard how our other teams are doing in Colorado far as Fireworks and Sparkler
http://www.ci.broomfield.co.us/Recreati ... =14&Pool=9
http://www.ci.broomfield.co.us/Recreati ... dings.aspx
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http://www.cofireworks.com/
There are so many collegs here. We are playing 16's and at Aurora Sports park it is jam packed with college scouts
There are so many collegs here. We are playing 16's and at Aurora Sports park it is jam packed with college scouts
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NumeroUno - Posts: 8928
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NumeroUno wrote:http://www.cofireworks.com/
There are so many collegs here. We are playing 16's and at Aurora Sports park it is jam packed with college scouts
Keep it going Southern California teams....
http://www.triplecrownsports.com/showbr ... sionid=292
It's a good pitch if you get away with it!!
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crowhopsoftball wrote:NumeroUno wrote:http://www.cofireworks.com/
There are so many collegs here. We are playing 16's and at Aurora Sports park it is jam packed with college scouts
Keep it going Southern California teams....
http://www.triplecrownsports.com/showbr ... sionid=292
In 14u it seems the tide is changing for So Cal teams - both OC Batbusters mcnee and Lakewood Firecrackers are in the losers bracket.
In the other tourney - Amy's Cal Rebels scored some runs but is done!
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