2010 Bats

[Hookem74]

Most college players and the bigger high school girls use slow pitch bats for fastpitch. The bats are identical with exception of weight. Actually the trend now is slowpitch players are using fastpitch bats because supposedly the walls are thinner, lighter weight resulting in an increase in bat speed.

I have seen very few slowpitch bats in ASA fastpitch simply because the younger girls can't handle the heavier weight. Don't know if their is a specific rule stating they are illegal, never heard of that. I could be wrong but I can't find anything saying they are illegal.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Any reference to a ruling on this by anyone else?

[Tumblebug]

ASA Regulations state that you cannot use a slowpitch bat in fastpitch play. The ball would jump off the slowpitch bat many times more dangerous than an actual fastpitch bat. Look at what the bat does to a slow pitch that is arched it smashes the ball, you said yourself this bat was crazy when you saw it. The officials at the game apparently don't know their rules or did not pay attention. Was this a league game or tournament??

You gotta show me this "rule" Because there are no differences in how the bats are certified. EVERY bat is tested by ASA using the same criteria. If I put the appropriate graphics on a slowpitch bat it becomes a fastpitch bat and is still tested in exactly the same way. If I don't add the words slowpitch or fastpitch to the graphics, nobody knows the difference except by the way it feels.

I don't believe any such "regulation" exists.

[DunninLA]

Bandit ... wait, WHAT??

where on this ASA page does it make a distinction between fastpitch and slowpitch approved and non-approved bats?? http://www.asasoftball.com/about/certif ... ipment.asp

okay, I might be making a fool of myself out of ignorance, but here is my take:

ASA is ASA... slow, fast whatever kind of pitch. The 2004 ASA standard applies to the BAT, not what kind of league it is used in -- the standard applies to bats, whether used in youth, adult, men, women, or coed leagues, whether fastpitch, or slowpitch doesn't matter.

It is true that in most SLOWPITCH, but not ASA, 100 mph bats are allowed in most organizations. Then you roll, shave, and vice them, and they are up to 108 mph. Notice that many bat makers make both a 98 mph bat (ASA 2004 standard) and a 100 mph bat. Of course the 100 mph bat is missing the ASA 2004 decal and is therefore barred from use in ASA sanctioned play.

ASA is ASA.

The reason that bat crushed the ball is pure physics -- the bat is HEAVIER than -10 or -9 bats. If a batter can get the core strength and mechanics to properly swing a -8, -7 or -6 bat, it is going to achieve a real life exit speed several miles per hour faster than a -10 or -9 bat. 90% of ASA gold level hitters cannot properly handle a -8 bat because they haven't done the weight training that college and Olympic women do several times per week to build the core and arm strength to get a -8, -7, or eve -6 bat up to 65+ batspeed.

Last I noticed, Crystl Bustos was using a 34/28 slow pitch bat in the Olympics.

[Sftbll4ever]

The reason that bat crushed the ball is pure physics -- the bat is HEAVIER than -10 or -9 bats. If a batter can get the core strength and mechanics to properly swing a -8, -7 or -6 bat, it is going to achieve a real life exit speed several miles per hour faster than a -10 or -9 bat.

I can attest to that. My DD usually swings a 34/24. Her bat broke and while we are waiting for a new one (comes today YES!!!) she has been swinging another girls bat on the team. It is a 34/26. This weekend, she was slapping and got one. Went so hard to the 2b that she actually ducked out of the way. I personally have never seen my kid hit a linedrive that hard, but I knew it was because of the bat.

[BANDITO99]

It was just my guess that it would have been a regulation thru ASA. I have been looking for he rule myself and if I find it I will post it. I also asked the ASA Texas UIC to see what he send back to me.

I just find it odd that slowpitch bats would be allowed in fastpitch

[Mr. Wonderful]

Bandit ... wait, WHAT??

90% of ASA gold level hitters cannot properly handle a -8 bat because they haven't done the weight training that college and Olympic women do several times per week to build the core and arm strength to get a -8, -7, or eve -6 bat up to 65+ batspeed.

Last I noticed, Crystl Bustos was using a 34/28 slow pitch bat in the Olympics.

Thanks for the clarification. I read it the same, just couldnt believe the hits. BTW, Beast hitter was a 94.

[Crabby_Bob]

ASA Regulations state that you cannot use a slowpitch bat in fastpitch play. The ball would jump off the slowpitch bat many times more dangerous than an actual fastpitch bat. Look at what the bat does to a slow pitch that is arched it smashes the ball, you said yourself this bat was crazy when you saw it. The officials at the game apparently don't know their rules or did not pay attention. Was this a league game or tournament??

You gotta show me this "rule" Because there are not differences in hot the bats are certified. EVERY bat is tested by ASA using the same criteria. If I put the appropriate graphics on a slowpitch bat it becomes a fastpitch bat and is still tested in exactly the same way. If I don't add the words slowpitch or fastpitch to the graphics, nobody knows the difference except by the way it feels.

3.1 OFFICIAL BAT
A. CERTIFIED/APPROVED. [paraphrasing... it has to have the 2004 stamp, not be banned. There are exceptions.]
B. MARKING. The offical bat shall be marked OFFICIAL SOFTBALL by the manufacturer.
C. LENGTH AND WEIGHT. The official bat shall not be more than 34.0 inches long, nor exceed 38.0 ounces in weight.
[that's a +4 bat, folks!]

There are subsections D-K that set down regulations for other characteristics of the bat. Nowhere in section 3.1 is slowpitch/fastpitch mentioned.

I don't believe any such "regulation" exists.

There isn't.

[BANDITO99]

In the final Olympics Crystal Bustos swung a Demarini CF3 Black and a Miken

[url][/url]http://www.2008.nbcolympics.com/softball/photos/galleryid=237971.html

[url][/url]http://www.2008.nbcolympics.com/softball/photos/galleryid=237971.html

[BANDITO99]

See reply from Texas UIC

As long as the bat meets the requirements of Rule 3 Section A, the bat may be used at any type of ball.
Bats are not certified as fast pitch or slow pitch.

Walt

If they can swing the Slowpitch bat in fastpitch more power to them no regulations exist.

Thanks