2010 Bats

[one2many]

If you are a fan of the old Easton (purple/white) Stealth 98 mph, Look out for the 2010 Easton Stealth Speed. I spoke to an Easton rep and this new bat is replacing the old stealth. The bat will be out on the market in early November of 2009. The new bat is suppose to be just as good as the old Stealth.

[MTR]

tumblebug,
I could not agree more about these companies that are nothing more than a marketing outlet reselling a bat with their logo on it. It is hard not to laugh at some of the terms used to con the players into using said bat. Like Temped Ballistic Alloy from Rip It, what a con job. It is a simple alloy bat and nothing more. Anderson on the other hand does make bats in-house and the Rocket Tech with the outside barrel was true and honest engineering, thus the success of that model.

And you think Sears actually makes kitchen appliances? Or the Gap makes their own jeans? Or 7-Eleven processes their own coffee, or bottles water and soft drinks? Or Cheverolet and Lincoln actually build cars?

Why the big deal? Rebranding and marketing products as one's own is nothing new in this world regardless of the product.

[DunninLA]

MTR -- you threw out too many disparate examples to reply to... so let me just say that there is a difference between proprietary research + sending specs to a contract manufacturer (which is I assume what almost all legitimate bat companies do), and picking up the phone to a Chinese or Canadian contract manufacturer and saying "hey, next time you do a run of XXX bat, run another 200 in each length and paint our logo on it -- our catalog is too skinny, we need a bunch of knock-off stuff to put in it. " So the manufacturer asks -- "OK, we've already got the line set up... but how do you want us to handle the QC -- XXX currently has that done at a 3rd party QC company in Phoenix... do you want us to send the shipments there?" To which the (fill in the blank... helmet, shoe, sunglass) company says, "well, that sounds good... say, have you got their name and number handy? I need to give them a call".

A Chevy Malibu is not a Ford 500 repainted. Your examples are absurd.

[MTR]

MTR -- you threw out too many disparate examples to reply to... so let me just say that there is a difference between proprietary research + sending specs to a contract manufacturer (which is I assume what almost all legitimate bat companies do), and picking up the phone to a Chinese or Canadian contract manufacturer and saying "hey, next time you do a run of XXX bat, run another 200 in each length and paint our logo on it -- our catalog is too skinny, we need a bunch of knock-off stuff to put in it. " So the manufacturer asks -- "OK, we've already got the line set up... but how do you want us to handle the QC -- XXX currently has that done at a 3rd party QC company in Phoenix... do you want us to send the shipments there?" To which the (fill in the blank... helmet, shoe, sunglass) company says, "well, that sounds good... say, have you got their name and number handy? I need to give them a call".

A Chevy Malibu is not a Ford 500 repainted. Your examples are absurd.

If it makes you feel better, okay. If you say so, it must be true. Then again, you feeling better about yourself does not disprove any comment I made. If you think it does, please tell me which comment was false.

[DunninLA]

MTR - the only examply I gave was the last sentence... do you think Ford 500s are repainted Chevy Malibus? Or that both are actually repainted cars designed/speced by another car maker? You wrote that Chevy and Ford do not actually build cars.

My point is that the "factory" that builds a car is not nearly as important as the designers who created it, and the engineering group that speced each part.

The fake bat brands would be like GM going to a factory in Korea or China producing Kia subcompacts and asking them to simiply change the grill, put on a landau top, and put the GM logo on the trunk lid. (oh, and all this without paying a dime to KIA).

[Hookem74]

so who are the fake bat brands??
Some of those knock offs are right up there in terms of best bats and they is plenty of general feedback to support that!
If a kid wants to swing a Rip-It, Rawlings,Reebok, Nike or Schutt...who cares more power to them!
chevy sux,ford rules

[ATD]

If you are a fan of the old Easton (purple/white) Stealth 98 mph, Look out for the 2010 Easton Stealth Speed. I spoke to an Easton rep and this new bat is replacing the old stealth. The bat will be out on the market in early November of 2009. The new bat is suppose to be just as good as the old Stealth.

I think this is the bat:

http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:140546/sku:113090

[Hookem74]

If you are a fan of the old Easton (purple/white) Stealth 98 mph, Look out for the 2010 Easton Stealth Speed. I spoke to an Easton rep and this new bat is replacing the old stealth. The bat will be out on the market in early November of 2009. The new bat is suppose to be just as good as the old Stealth.

I think this is the bat:

http://www.eastbay.com/product/model:140546/sku:113090

Is that a blue or purple taper??? Graphics are ok, the "stealth" letting could have been better. The Synergy speed looks pretty sweet I like the colors.
Glad they did away with the clarity line, they lost a lot business with the tampering clear crap.

[MTR]

MTR - the only examply I gave was the last sentence... do you think Ford 500s are repainted Chevy Malibus? Or that both are actually repainted cars designed/speced by another car maker? You wrote that Chevy and Ford do not actually build cars.

I wrote no such thing. I wrote:

And you think Sears actually makes kitchen appliances? Or the Gap makes their own jeans? Or 7-Eleven processes their own coffee, or bottles water and soft drinks? Or Cheverolet and Lincoln actually build cars?

Chevrolet and Lincoln are not manufacturers of automobiles. They are companies which sell cars manufactured by GMC and Ford, respectively.

My point is that the "factory" that builds a car is not nearly as important as the designers who created it, and the engineering group that speced each part.

You are kidding, right? There are four automobile manufacturers of what is considered "American-made" cars in the US, GMC, Ford, Chrysler and Toyota. There are no Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Saturn, Lincoln, Mercury, Dodge or Jeep factories.

You ever notice why you cannot find a 4-door Mazda Navajo? Because the Navajo is an Explorer and Ford would not give Mazda the 4-door model.

The fake bat brands would be like GM going to a factory in Korea or China producing Kia subcompacts and asking them to simiply change the grill, put on a landau top, and put the GM logo on the trunk lid. (oh, and all this without paying a dime to KIA).

You are aware GMC, well actually all the "American" car companies have production contracts with Japanese companies, right?

But I really don't care. My post concerned rebranding of contracted products and nothing more. Really don't care if the consumer doesn't perform due diligence prior to purchase, shame on them. Today's market allows for more methods of checking and confirming product information than there has ever been, so there really is no excuse.

[Tumblebug]

Lincoln, Mercury and at one time Edsel were divisions of the Ford Motor Company. Ford also owns Aston Martin, and they once owned a controlling interest (now a non-controlling interest) in Mazda; they share a joint venture with Mazda to assemble cars in Michigan and a minor interest in Volvo.

Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick, and GMC are General Motors Company (GM) brands. There were indeed separate assembly plants for each of the divisions because those divisions became part of the GM family through acquisition of a wholly separate enterprise. Toyota is a Japanese company with a strategic alliance with General Motors to build their cars in the US in a once closed GM plant.

The point is that those were not private branded products but rather they were wholly owned by the parent companies and were not the generic versions of another company's products and poor examples of your point.

There is nothing wrong with private branding, Craftsman and Kenmore are great examples that are built for Sears by many different vendors.

I find it laughable when folks begin to compare one to the other when there really is no determinable difference aside from the graphic decals. And worse are the the companies with all of the pseudo-engineering chest pounding decrying the superior effort put into the design, when the effort consisted of cutting a purchase order for a design that has been used more than a urinal at the Octoberfest.

As far as I am concerned, It doesn't really matter as long as you know what you are getting with a "me too" product. Whatever floats your boat, blows your hair back or ticks your tock. I'm sure they are all wonderful people in spite of their lack of imagination and willingness to be ordinary.