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Buy In fees question

by specificgravity » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:26 pm

New to HB and really enjoy the discussions. I have a question regarding "Buy In" or "Start up" fees. If a team has six returning players,( 6 stayed down for 2nd year of 12's) and six new players for the upcoming season(Fall), should all 12 players be paying the start up fees or is it just the new ones that pay? Should there be start up fees? Uniforms & Bags are provided but they are the same
uni's and bags as last year ( Players that left returned uni's but not helmets/cleats etc). Other equipment (helmets,cleats etc) was purchased with fundraiser and/or some monthly due $$$$$. Just looking for what is typical and what proper protocol is. Do they all pay?
Thanks for any help. :P
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by Killer Rabbit » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:43 am

Same team, same uniforms. Then only the new girls should have to pay the start up fee. That will cover their helmets, etc...
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by hotwheels » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:41 am

Killer Rabbit wrote:Same team, same uniforms. Then only the new girls should have to pay the start up fee. That will cover their helmets, etc...


Yes, I agree with that....BUT, either way it is totally the teams decision to charge whatever they want and if the parent/s don't like it they don't have to play there....
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by DDG » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:37 am

hotwheels wrote:
Killer Rabbit wrote:Same team, same uniforms. Then only the new girls should have to pay the start up fee. That will cover their helmets, etc...


Yes, I agree with that....BUT, either way it is totally the teams decision to charge whatever they want and if the parent/s don't like it they don't have to play there....


Agree - team managment can charge whatever they want. If overall fees/dues are too high (in your opinion), you can always look elsewhere.
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by specificgravity » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:07 pm

Thanks for the input. Team fees are fair, just wasn't sure if all the girls would be expected to pay start ups again. Makes sense that just the new ones pay, especially if management isn't doing new uni's for all. I guess that makes just another good reason to return :D
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by hotwheels » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:55 am

specificgravity wrote:Thanks for the input. Team fees are fair, just wasn't sure if all the girls would be expected to pay start ups again. Makes sense that just the new ones pay, especially if management isn't doing new uni's for all. I guess that makes just another good reason to return :D


Even if they are doing uni's...Doesn't matter..Keep in mind that a manager can charge double for each girl with blonde hair on the team and 1/2 price for kids who have dad's who wear glasses :D .....It is totally their decision to charge whatever they want for whatever they want.....If it sounds wrong, then don't play there.....

This is the issue that I see a lot of the parents on this board having......There is no such LAW or RULE for what teams can or can't charge.....
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by THE MAD-DOG99 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:44 am

With the above being said, you were still right to ask the question..

Most coaches do the right thing and look to keep cost reasonable and fair, but I have seen some goofy things. Had a friend last year on a team, who had a player that dad thought was to good to have to pay anything. The coach actually went around and asked the other parents to help cover the cost of this kid...PASS...
The other cost , misc etc , should match up for each kid and bottom line if the cost appears out of wack, just find another team..
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by NoTimeForChores » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:47 pm

hotwheels wrote:
specificgravity wrote:Thanks for the input. Team fees are fair, just wasn't sure if all the girls would be expected to pay start ups again. Makes sense that just the new ones pay, especially if management isn't doing new uni's for all. I guess that makes just another good reason to return :D


Even if they are doing uni's...Doesn't matter..Keep in mind that a manager can charge double for each girl with blonde hair on the team and 1/2 price for kids who have dad's who wear glasses :D .....It is totally their decision to charge whatever they want for whatever they want.....If it sounds wrong, then don't play there.....

This is the issue that I see a lot of the parents on this board having......There is no such LAW or RULE for what teams can or can't charge.....


Exactly right. However, most (10u - 14u) teams only apply a start up fee on the initial registration of a player with a team. Watch out for teams that apply a "start up" fee or "buy in" at the start of every season or year. You should be aware of this if you are getting hammered every season for a new start up fee. This may help you make a decision to leave or not. Some 16u and 18u teams do charge every season. They need the $$ for travel, showcases and what not. The teams can charge what ever they want but you should know what others are doing to help your decision making process.
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by hotwheels » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:56 am

NoTimeForChores wrote:
hotwheels wrote:
specificgravity wrote:Thanks for the input. Team fees are fair, just wasn't sure if all the girls would be expected to pay start ups again. Makes sense that just the new ones pay, especially if management isn't doing new uni's for all. I guess that makes just another good reason to return :D


Even if they are doing uni's...Doesn't matter..Keep in mind that a manager can charge double for each girl with blonde hair on the team and 1/2 price for kids who have dad's who wear glasses :D .....It is totally their decision to charge whatever they want for whatever they want.....If it sounds wrong, then don't play there.....

This is the issue that I see a lot of the parents on this board having......There is no such LAW or RULE for what teams can or can't charge.....


Exactly right. However, most (10u - 14u) teams only apply a start up fee on the initial registration of a player with a team. Watch out for teams that apply a "start up" fee or "buy in" at the start of every season or year. You should be aware of this if you are getting hammered every season for a new start up fee. This may help you make a decision to leave or not. Some 16u and 18u teams do charge every season. They need the $$ for travel, showcases and what not. The teams can charge what ever they want but you should know what others are doing to help your decision making process.


Yes, agree totally....We only do a registration fee ONE time....
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by kingskid » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:03 pm

You can call in what you want but I have found that it is easier to charge
250/ buy in and 100.00 mo for 10 months
then 125.00 mo for 10 months

it is the same amount at the end but if you leave then you have a little up front to cover until other kids comes.

Remember all these tournaments are $600.00 a pop now
our fall and Summer tournaments cost 12,000 and that is no Round robins or friendlies

15 girls x 100.00 mo x 10 mo is 15,000 not very much room there on a 35,000 budget

250x15 girls 3,750 Uni's, Helmets, Bat Bags,practice shirts, etc thats gone!

How can you say Coaches are stealing money??? I bet you 85% of all coaches out there kids or no kids on a team spend anywhere from 1,000 to 5,000 of there own money every year.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH ANY TEAM THAT EVERY PLAYER PAID ALL THERE DUES.
lets be honest at least 3 or 4 every year has a reason why they are broke.

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