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Valencia strikes again!!!

by DurfWerzel » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:08 pm

scvsoftball wrote:
DurfWerzel wrote:What ever happened to the proof that was going to be posted?


Seriously, a big list of questions is your proof?

1. why is it that valencia is able to reschedule league games to fit into their tournament schedule no other schools are allowed to to that; then again no other schools HAVE a coach that sits on the board


Hart and Saugus play similar schedules. But lets be specific. What games are you referring to and what board is it that DL is on that gives her all this special power? If you posted some facts, then everyone can research on their own to determine what is an isn't allowed.

2. why is it that Valencia is able to get their kids out of school early for league games when other schools don’t even get out of class till 1;45


Valencia shows up to their league games the same time as every other school. And what time you get out has to do with the schedule of the individual student. A lot of Juniors and Seniors are done before 1:45.

3. why is it that Valencias heas coach is allowed to sit on the board of directors the same board that is responsible for governing and policing the league


I think this would be a question for whomever controls the mystery board you keep mentioning, but my guess is that they allow coaches to volunteer and she volunteered. Maybe Rego should start applying for board positions.

4. why is it that the student athletes that play for Valencia are able to miss school to travel to bullhead city to play in a tournament i.e. march 12th and mar 26th fastest to first tournament April 9th Michele crew tournament etc.


I would imagine it's for the same reason Saugus, Hart, and a dozen other CIF Southern Section teams are able to go. Are you really trying to say there is some rule that says HS sports teams can't miss a single day of school for a team event? I find that hard to believe, but even if it were true, how is it that going to Bullhead has anything to do with the allegation that DL directly recruited a CC player?

5. why is it that Valencia is allowed to give their field, balls, pitching machine electricity (paid for by the distinct) to a local travel ball team to use and in return the travel ball team bought them a tractor to prep their field


Pretty much all the equipment in the Valencia batting cage was donated at some point by parents. (myself included) The district isn't buying anyone pitching machines. And the general practice of travel teams investing in time and equipment to help maintain the fields that they play on is an extremely common practice throughout SoCal.

6. why is it that that same travel ball team feeds Valencia players and in return They instructs girls on their hs team to go to that travel ball coach for hitting lesson @ 30 dollars a half hour


That is a flat out lie. How the hell does a travel team "feed" players?. Every Chopper player who currently plays for Valencia lives in the district. And Any girl on the Valencia roster who currently takes hitting lessons form the Choppers has done so since long before they were old enough to play HS ball. Of the ones that don't, most have at one time, and none were told by DL to resume.

7. why is it that Valencias pitching mound/plate was off alignment by at least 8 inches (for years) and when the coach was confronted by a foothill league coach her reply get over it it’s a home filed advantage


Are you claiming to have been at the game in question, or did you just make that up? The first complaint about the misaligned rubber came from the Valencia players after the pitcher hit two batters in a row. The opposing coach didn't care when the problem went his way. Then, when his pitcher hit a couple players, he took a time out to examine the crooked rubber. It wasn't until that point, that any comments were made. But regardless, once again, I'm not seeing the connection between a messed up pitching rubber and illegal recruiting? Or are you just saying that Valencia playing 5 games per season on that crooked rubber is the reason they dominate? And if that's true, how the hell was CC able to beat Valencia at Valencia?

8. why it is that players and coaches have complained about VAlencias batters box for years yet Valencia does nothing about it (another home field advantage???????)


What exactly is the complaint? And what is the advantage? Is the advantage greater than being able to play all your home games on either an open field where your outfielders get to camp at 225 and s single to the gap is a homerun?

9. why is it that Valencias coach calls ALL the umpires by their first name insteed of blue or ump


Maybe because she's been coaching in the league for 15 years? I'm assuming you're a travel ball parent. You don't know any umpires by there first name?

10. why is it that Valencia instructs their players to hit in the schools batting cage at lunch before home league games


Come on. Be specific. What players were hitting in the cage and what games? If you are going to call it proof, step up and spill it.


11. why is it that Valencias haed coache has a husband who works for the district and he is one of the player liaisons between the cif and the league for player eligibility


I don't know why. If what you say is true, is it some type of violation? or is it another position Rego has yet to volunteer for?

12. why is it that Valencia has more out of the area players approved then any other school


Who exactly on the 2009 roster is an out of area player? And please don't say the HWL transfer. She has lived within a mile of VHS since Junior High.

13. how did Valencia get a 10th grade transfer to her school eligible to play at the varsity level when the same 10th grade transfer situation was denied varsity eligibility from golden valley to Saugus


I have no idea about the Saugus specifics, but I would imagine that it wasn't a case of a family already living in the district deciding to discontinue traveling out of the district to attend a private school due to economic hardship.

14. why is it that Valencia coaches talk to 7th and 8th graders at the batting cages about where they are playing hs ball


I have no idea. Valencia also runs a camp every summer for 6-10 year olds. I guess that could also be a grand recruiting conspiracy.

15. why is it that Valencia invites 7th and 8th graders to attend her summer programs?


Again I have no idea. Is doing that an actual violation? And if it is, post your facts and report it.

16. why is it that Valencia allows their parents to try and RECRUIT the best incoming freshman in the scv (no matter where they live) to their program


DL has absolutely no control over what a bunch of TB parents talk about when they're hanging out every weekend during the summer. And she has even less control of all the talk that goes on between the players themselves. All the girls are friends, and many play on the same TB teams. You don't think they talk to each other about how cool it might be to play on the same team? And if you are implying that Rego would not tolerate his parents doing the same thing if he was a coach any kid wanted to play for, you clearly don't know Rego.

17. AND last but certainly not LEAST how did the softball players that took DL"S summer school health class pass the course????? The DISTICT RULE clearly state that if you miss more then 3 days you fail the class. PERIOD

The dates listed below are where some summer school students (Valencia players)
had to travel (with their travel teams) for tournaments for “08”:
• Stockton Tournament: 6-27-08 to 2-29-08.
• Colorado Tournament: 6-30-08 and 7-6-08
• Seattle Tournament: 7-11- 08 to 7-13-08. 1st game Friday morning 8 am.
• Irvine Tournament: 7-17-08 to 7-20-08


Again, no specifics, and not really related to the discussion of recruiting. If you have a list of the players in summer school and some kind of documentation of their playing time, then post it, but I'm guessing you don't.
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by BarbaraBoser » Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:42 pm

To all the parents that have heard about this thread and came to read what all the fuss was about, I wanted to add my two cents about our experience at VHS. I figure that many of you have young daughters that may live in our district and I hate for you to question the integrity of the program at VHS.

My daughter will be a senior there this year and has played for Donna Lee for two years. Our time there has been filled with nothing but great memories. At no time have I ever heard Donna or any of her coaches remotely discuss recruiting any players.

A little about Donna Lee. She is a wife, a mother of two boys and one of the hardest working women I have ever met in my life. She is a coach, a mentor and a friend to her team and has an incredible winning spirit. She fosters teamwork, demands hard work and drives the girls to play their best, while remembering that they are, after all... girls. Any girl that has the opportunity to play for Donna is fortunate and will come out a stronger player as a result. In my opinion, Donna is far removed from the politics of the travel ball world. She pretty much focuses on her team and minds her own business.

This particular season, we have 6 returning seniors 4 very strong juniors 3 returning sophomores (one of which won too many awards for me to mention including Co-Player of the Year). Our team will be competitive, with or without a sophomore catcher.

The finger pointing in this thread is just that. Finger pointing. It's a group of cyber stone throwers who are either too afraid to sign their REAL name or intentionally don't sign their name because they have something to hide or don't want to be blamed for something they said. Guessing some of them are travel ball coaches that have now turned high school coaches and are trying to justify why their programs didn't play up to expectations.

If you live in the VHS district and your daughter plays softball, consider yourself lucky. We have a great program at every level and you will be proud to be a Viking. All of this forum drivel is a result of having a winning program. If we lost every game no one would give a crap about a girl wanting to transfer in.

To all the posters, have some balls and sign your name. Quit throwing in your comments and hiding behind some stupid screen name.

Oh and to whoever said Mr. Ego was the best coach ever...thanks for that. I needed a good laugh after reading all the garbage.

I hope that gave you a little insight from someone that actually has a daughter that plays for the program. If you live in our district and have a young daughter that plays ball, please bring her out to watch our games and come to the camps, see for yourself. It is a great experience. One that our team is proud of.

Barbara Boser
aka "MamaBose"


ps- To all the players reading this, I know some of you are bothered by some of the comments and you feel the need to defend your team and your coach. Rise above it girls. Just play ball.
Last edited by BarbaraBoser on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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by anderdud » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:03 pm

Hey BarbaraBoser I bet the girl that recruited last year to come and pitch doesn't feel the same way! Besides I know a few parents over there and they DONT feel the same way. They are afraid to say anything because they know it will be taken out on their kids. If you want this to stop tell VHS to make sure they play JV next year oh wait you need a catcher.
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by bandit 75 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:11 pm

Hey anderdud, if you would have successfully landed the kid from GV, would you be pushing for her to play JV this year? I thought you wanted the rule changed! You don't give a sh*t about the rule, you guys are concerned about winning and losing! If you don't like the rule, get it changed! There has not been one of you CC posters that adressed any aligation against Rigo recruiting.I am pretty sure you were at his house, though I am not 100% sure, because I was not there! If you really want the rule changed, get it changed.
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by scvsoftball » Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:58 pm

QUOTE :Again, no specifics, and not really related to the discussion of recruiting. If you have a list of the players in summer school and some kind of documentation of their playing time, then post it, but I'm guessing you don't.

WOW so well spoken and such thought you put into it im verry impressed. And your right it has nothing to do with recruiting it has to do with ChEATING!!!!!!! ther is really only 2 answers you can give

1. either the girls were not at those tournaments and they did not miss more then 3 days (and we know that is not true becase many many people (including me) in the scv saw them there OR

2. The district does not have a rule thats says if you miss more than 3 days of summer school you CAN NOT pass the class (and we know that is not true because the distict was contacted and confirmed the rule

SO the million dollar questions is still out there HOW DID THEY PASS ( their HS coach"s) CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO you have an answer

BTW there is a list do you really want the names posted here............................. i didnt think so
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by BarbaraBoser » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:08 pm

anderdud wrote:Hey BarbaraBoser I bet the girl that recruited last year to come and pitch doesn't feel the same way!

There was NO recruiting. They live 2 blocks away from VHS.

anderdud wrote:Besides I know a few parents over there and they DONT feel the same way. They are afraid to say anything because they know it will be taken out on their kids.

The girls are in high school. Why would the parents say ANYTHING? The girls can go in and talk to Donna anytime. She is a teacher there and the players are welcome to speak with her anytime. Parents need to let their daughters speak and play for themselves.

anderdud wrote:If you want this to stop tell VHS to make sure they play JV next year oh wait you need a catcher.

Are you saying to have the girls that transfer in play JV? First off, they'd be lucky to have a year with Coach Rooney. He is amazing. Secondly, I don't "tell" anyone to do anything. I am a parent there, not a coach or administrator. Anyway, it is true we lost a catcher. We don't "need" one. We would be fine with the girls we have. Many of them have caught at one point or another in their playing career.

Anyway, if you want to respond to me. Have some courage and say who you are. The whole anonymity thing is very rec ball. Very "eteamz". Be a man or a woman and sign your name.
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by anderdud » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:01 am

Hey bandit 75, as far as I am concerned yes, any kid that transfers should have to play down one year. I want it to go back to the old days if you want to play for that school MOVE.
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by anderdud » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:44 am

Hey bandit 75 it's my understanding that the CC girl was trying to get her friend to play at CC not the coach. I'm sure the coach didn't mind
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by bandit 75 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:39 am

So are you confirming she was there?
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by anderdud » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:48 am

bandit 75 I have really no idea if she was there or not, this is just what I heard last year during the season. The only thing I know for sure is a VHS coach sent a text to a CC coach saying I guess your shortstop will be playing over here next year. You know this is a small valley and everybody talks. My DD played travel ball for years and I have a lot of friends that are closer to this than I am, so I hear pretty much all of it. Like I said before if you are allowed to transfer(which I don't think you should be allowed to) you should not be allowed to play Varisty for one year. Also why is it that I also heard the CC girl is going over to VHS for a sports medicine class that is really only for Seniors. The freshman from GV that transferred to Saugus last year had to play down one year and I know that her dad got a place in Saugus to live. So she moved and had to play down why do these two girls who transferred get to play Varisty right away.
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