Valencia strikes again!!!

[ratzdad11]

I would be a lot more impressed with her as a coach if she would stop recruiting girls from other schools. It is very easy to win will you take all the talent and put it on one team. Ask Phil Jackson how easy it is to win when you have talent. Stop stealing girls from other schools and win then I will be impressed! I have also heard that one of the girls that came to Valencia due to hardship because a parent lost a job, is still working at the same job. If that is true it's called cheating.

[txsoftballfan]

Your right they didn't break any rules(So penalize them for not breaking rules?), but it is not fair to the schools. Like I said that rule needs to change. The big thing is lying about wanting to take a class, when everybody knows that's not the reason the transferred ( Apparently the board didn't know). And since they let them do it. They need to play on JV and pay there dues for lying and cheating the system.

Perhaps this move demotes your DD "since were assuming here right".

Sure sounds like it....heard Golden Valley and Canyon are looking for players...maybe you should take your daughter there?

[THE COMMISH]

I would be a lot more impressed with her as a coach if she would stop recruiting girls from other schools. It is very easy to win will you take all the talent and put it on one team. Ask Phil Jackson how easy it is to win when you have talent. Stop stealing girls from other schools and win then I will be impressed! I have also heard that one of the girls that came to Valencia due to hardship because a parent lost a job, is still working at the same job. If that is true it's called cheating.

Maybe you should have the correct information before posting comments on other people's situation.It's high school softball anyways.These kids aren't getting scholarships from high school softball.When have you seen a college scout at a high school game.

[sportzjunky]

For me, I worry that this will untimately kill the other programs(meaning TB players bail on school ball and stay in TB and programs get worse overall). I dont blame Rego/CC, or GV, or West Ranch coaching staff, etc... GV lost thier best PI to BS last year too, who will move to Saugus(unless thats changed). These other schools suffer (parents all know and dont like it, coaches frustrated, etc.. i hear this at the games) and the mid-level players along with the Gold kids who play in thier area do suffer poundings along the way because of it... but a rare beating of Goliath was pretty cool this past year. These young kids grouping at these 2 schools secures thier paths over the next 3-5 years along with the recruiting power to move more. So be it.

I wish them all luck.. it just sucks for the other schools in the valley when 2 schools end up with the "bulk" (not all) of true Gold ball playas thru recruiting at the 7th & 8th grade level.

Pretty sure Valencia also gets the best 95 catcher in our area next season also. Rich get richer. That team is going to be phenomenal when it all settles in.

[THE COMMISH]

Donna Lee is one of the best high school coaches in California and if you knew her you'd realize she has integrity and respect for the game. Her husband is not on the CIF board - Donna is! As a matter of fact he leads a diversity council on the school board after being a principal at a local junior high for years. He's a community leader. The coach at Canyon has done his part to prevent a transfer - unsuccessfully. Whether you like it or not, the players both transferred legally so quit crying foul and claiming something must be illegal. So what if the girls play on the Choppers? A lot of local talent plays for them as they are the only legit gold team in the area. Santa Clarita has been loaded with talent for years, not just '91-'95. Valencia has won 9 straight league titles, 2 CIF championships, and a "national" title. Who wouldn't want their kid playing for Valencia? It's a no brainer. With a new CIF transfer rule, freshmen don't have to sit a year and if the school has a class that isn't offerred elsewhere, then it's a win-win. No rules broken. Good luck Valencia. Keep winning in spite of the haters.

It's pretty easy to win when you have Division 1 talent every year.So it's not all coaching,these players have been playing for the top travel ball organizations for years and against the best players in the country every year...

[OutsideObserver]

Long Time reader, first time poster.

I just had to reply. This is avery sensitive subject and long overdue for discussion.

There are rules in place, Donna Lee regularly break them. It is as simple as that. Their apologists can call everyone haters, but that is just obscuring the issue.

You don't have to like the rules, but everyone has to follow them. It is called having a level playing field.

The Valencia recruiting practices are detrimental to Softball here in the Santa Clarita Valley. The way hardship transfers are approved (in favor of Valencia) or denied (for the rest) is an embarrassment for the Southern Section. You would think that one of DL's relatives is in charge of these athletic approvals or denials.

[OutsideObserver]

Maybe you should have the correct information before posting comments on other people's situation.

I do have correct information, as do others who have watched what has been going on for the last several years.

It's pretty easy to win when you have Division 1 talent every year.So it's not all coaching,these players have been playing for the top travel ball organizations for years and against the best players in the country every year...

And how do they mostly end up at Valencia? Especially the one's who are siblings of stars from other schools. Something smells!

[kevin]

The only recruiting tool the coach at Valencia needs is her past success. It's just like travel ball, most of the good players gravitate towards the teams with a history of success. Same thing happens in football with Bob Johnhson in Mission Viejo, or in basketball with the guy at Compton/Dominguez (maybe not anymore), and happened for years in baseball with Demarest at La Quinta in Garden Grove.

If there is a rule in place or loop hole that allows transfers to happen in your school district, then that is something you should address with your school board, you vote for them.

Like the football program at Mission Viejo says "Tradition never graduates", these school rely on that past success and tradition as the only recruiting tool they need.

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As a matter of fact he leads a diversity council

Well that counts for.....nothing

What it counts for is disputing someone's claim that Greg Lee is on the CIF board. Laughable.

School boundaries changed and that's why she is at Valencia, not Saugus. She's at the school she' supposed to be at. Quit crying foul.

[until the last out]

Maybe you should have the correct information before posting comments on other people's situation.

I do have correct information, as do others who have watched what has been going on for the last several years.

It's pretty easy to win when you have Division 1 talent every year.So it's not all coaching,these players have been playing for the top travel ball organizations for years and against the best players in the country every year...

And how do they mostly end up at Valencia? Especially the one's who are siblings of stars from other schools like Kemp. Something smells!

Take away Destiny, Jessica and Melissa from Hart after this year, and there is no competition at all.

You don't know what you are talking about. Rules are in place. DL didn't break anything. Valencia benefits to Canyons detriment. Too bad. I can guarantee you one thing - if all that D1 talent at Valencia was coached by the coach at Canyon he would screw it up. Having the talent is one thing, but you need a good shepard. Even with all the talent at Hart they couldn't win. It takes a great coach to lead the way. DL is the best in Santa Clarita. Oh, and that star '95 you mention....she moved into the Valencia district. Is that called breaking the rules? Does that mean DL cheated? Keep trying....