The Next Lawyer

[livinsball]

I think there are some apologies due from this organization’s parents, players, and even coaches. The derogatory remarks and retaliatory actions imposed upon the individuals involved in the original incident for which there was no decisive outcome now seem to be due to the organizations own naivety, immaturity, pour judgment and “hitman” mentality. Some innocent peoples/girls lives have be torn up by this group. If this organization truly wants to clear its name and become the organization that it desires to be, one synonymous with next level competition composed next level talent, then everyone in the organization needs to stand up and admit they were wrong and apologize to those that they have done wrong.

[Blind Squirrel]

IMO, a respectful organization, one that puts the welfare of the children above all else, suspends all contact with the coach until the circumstances are sorted out. A respectful org. acts in a way that earns respect, which to me in this context, means caring more about the welfare of children than about being loyal to a buddy. Apparently the TNL Board had no problem with this guy showing up at their games. The actions of the TNL Board when this all started speak for themselves and they deserve to be judged accordingly.

John

[Play ball]

IMO, a respectful organization, one that puts the welfare of the children above all else, suspends all contact with the coach until the circumstances are sorted out. A respectful org. acts in a way that earns respect, which to me in this context, means caring more about the welfare of children than about being loyal to a buddy. Apparently the TNL Board had no problem with this guy showing up at their games. The actions of the TNL Board when this all started speak for themselves and they deserve to be judged accordingly.

John

Looking at how horrible and disgusting the charges were last time, and yet the Board still let him hang around at the games. What in the hell did he have to do to get completely booted this time??

[Skarp]

IMO, a respectful organization, one that puts the welfare of the children above all else, suspends all contact with the coach until the circumstances are sorted out. A respectful org. acts in a way that earns respect, which to me in this context, means caring more about the welfare of children than about being loyal to a buddy. Apparently the TNL Board had no problem with this guy showing up at their games. The actions of the TNL Board when this all started speak for themselves and they deserve to be judged accordingly.

John

As I said repeatedly at the time, the correct move for the organization was to remove the man from the organization and prohibit all contact with the girls. The allegations involved were extremely serious, and warranted erring on the safe side, both for protection of the girls and protection of the reputation of the sport. Instead we got the sycophantic "innocent until proven guilty" mantra, over and over again.

Now it appears that the organization allowed a child predator access to its kids for well over a year after it had good reason to believe that there could be a problem. Rats from a sinking ship is what we ought to see now, but something tells me we won't. The kool-aide is strong in them parts.

They are apparently still...Texting Naughty Love...

[light]

The full extent of damage this creep has inflicted on young ladies over the years will likely never be known. Finally, too many players and parents became aware of "a situation" before the organization could kick into damage control mode for the umpteenth time, and the board, which had turned a blind eye for years was forced to act. The same blind eye jerks who protected him before are now running the show. Not good.

And don't be too quick to assume that because the guy has purportedly been removed from the organization that any of these girls are safe. Nothing could be further from the truth! He is still out there. He knows how to contact them, where they live, the cars they drive, where they go to school, where they practice, where they eat, their goals, and most frightening their weaknesses, and how to prey on them.

These young ladies will not be safe until he is incarcerated, which won't happen until there is full disclosure to the appropriate authorities from all current and former players, parents, and others with knowledge of his "activities".

One girl was brave enough to take a stand. Let us hope and pray, for the sake of young women everywhere, that there are others who have the same strength to come forward and end this. Once and for all. Now.

[TravelSoftballDad]

Apparently you missed the above post where it states the coach in question has been totally removed from the organization??? If the coach was not removed and totally gone, I don't think ANY parent would let their daughter play there right now!! Give those parents some credit. I'm sure this is a very very tough and confusing situation.

Call me crazy but...wasn't he gone the FIRST time? But that was different...right? C'mon people; I do not see this as too tough of a decision and really not that confusing. Did you really say you don't think ANY parent would let their daughter play there..."now."

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, YES...it is obvious that they have some parents who, in the least, have and would continue to turn a blind eye to this, refuse to believe it, and/or discount it as some sort of trumped up charge AGAIN. If you drank the Koolaid before, I'm just saying here is another cup. This is PATHETIC and sad.

I feel for those girls involved...and to those parents who were on here saying how the cops tried to frame him, the accuser was a liar, blah blah blah...how does that look now? Is this all a lie too? Are we gonna go with the jaded player who didn't get a D-1 ride made it up excuse again? Why would someone make this up AGAIN?

Those young ladies on that team are not the bad-guys here. I don't think there is ANYONE outside of the TNL origanization who thinks of those girls as such and, to be honest, most would love to have them playing on their team !!

BTW...nice touch with "The Next Lawyer." You forgot the "Certainly Foolish" part

[DODGERFAN]

THIS IS SOMETHING HARD TO DEAL WITH NOT ONCE BUT TWICE,WHERE I COME FROM THIER IS NO SECOND CHANCE FOR CHARGES LIKE THIS.......

[3 blind mice]

Ok, I wasn't going to join the band wagon, but can no longer stand it. Yes, it was a mistake perhaps to let him back...they did, and he showed his true colors (allegedly). But all of you who want the TNL parents to apologize are way out of line. They owe NOTHING of the sort to any of us. They are dealing with a difficult time, and trying to keep this well-respected organization in tact. The general, know-it-all, and judging softball community as a whole needs to shut up and let them heal. CF is gone...for those of you who want to rejoice in that fact, go ahead....but for the sake of the girls of TNL...LEAVE THEM ALONE. do not snicker behind their backs or blackball them from friendlies.....we all can't be as perfect as apparently you are...

and no..I am not a TNL parent.

[ice_67]

Ok, I wasn't going to join the band wagon, but can no longer stand it. Yes, it was a mistake perhaps to let him back...they did, and he showed his true colors (allegedly). But all of you who want the TNL parents to apologize are way out of line. They owe NOTHING of the sort to any of us. They are dealing with a difficult time, and trying to keep this well-respected organization in tact. The general, know-it-all, and judging softball community as a whole needs to shut up and let them heal. CF is gone...for those of you who want to rejoice in that fact, go ahead....but for the sake of the girls of TNL...LEAVE THEM ALONE. do not snicker behind their backs or blackball them from friendlies.....we all can't be as perfect as apparently you are...

and no..I am not a TNL parent.

I don’t think we can leave them alone until we see a statement from the TNL board or Jerry that specifically states that CF has been fired. That is, no responsibilities, activities or any affiliation with TNL. Until that happens then I am still a skeptic that he still plays a role with the team.

I know a lot of players/families with TNL. I wish them the best in this difficult time.

[Play ball]

Ok, I wasn't going to join the band wagon, but can no longer stand it. Yes, it was a mistake perhaps to let him back...they did, and he showed his true colors (allegedly). But all of you who want the TNL parents to apologize are way out of line. They owe NOTHING of the sort to any of us. They are dealing with a difficult time, and trying to keep this well-respected organization in tact. The general, know-it-all, and judging softball community as a whole needs to shut up and let them heal. CF is gone...for those of you who want to rejoice in that fact, go ahead....but for the sake of the girls of TNL...LEAVE THEM ALONE. do not snicker behind their backs or blackball them from friendlies.....we all can't be as perfect as apparently you are...

and no..I am not a TNL parent.

3bm: You are missing one important point. As I understand it, the first time this happened CF made bail and was attending games almost the next day. You REALLY need to read Skarps post above....the part about erring on the safe side. The TNL parents had no more than a gut feeling, or whatever you want to call it, and stood behind their coach. They wanted to believe he was innocent and I'm totaly fine with standing behind him until all facts were out...but do you really think it was wise, and in the best interest of ANYONE, that he showed up at the games with what was going on? Would you say that the parents that allowed this were usuing good judment?
You mention the "know-it-all and judging softball community,"...in my opinion, the TNL organization/parents has been judged on their past actions, or lack thereof, and I think the judgment is appropriate. Now it's time to rebuild credibilty and give those kids a safe enviroment...they DO deserve better!
Better to be "3 blind mice"...than "1 blind parent."