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Home to 1B and Home to Home base speed?

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by Dropn N » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:07 pm

What is a Home to 1B and Home to Home fast time? Acceptable time for 14u, 16u?
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by Tucson » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:48 am

Home to first - less than 3 secs.

My DD was acceptable and faster than most (HS) with 3.25.

If you have a 2.65 - 3.00 girl on the team, you will know it.
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by Instig8or » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:08 am

As said, anything sub-3 is good. A friend of ours' DD is a legitimate 2.6 and sher is freakishly fast. Seen a few who's stats say 2.6-2.8 and they're no where near that...

Our DD is faster than average and she is only sub 3.5 - no where near the "freak" status though !

(Home to Home - not sure)
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by smash » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:00 am

A good time from home to home is around 12 seconds.
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by Missinit » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:12 am

For player profile stats I heard that when timing from home to first the runner starts on the right side with back foot on plate. Is this correct and is that how these posted times were achieved?
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by bunt-n-run » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:15 am

Here are the minimum requirements to tryout for the US Olympic team (H to 1st - H to H - pitching speeds...etc.) You can at least see what is considered fast.

Minimum Standards
Infielders/Outfielders (Must meet each of the following)
Bat Speed – 50 mph (min)
Run Home to 1st – 2.95 sec. (max)
Throwing Speed – 55 mph (min)
Run Home to Home – 12.5 sec. (max)
Push-ups – 30
Pitchers (Consistent speed for any three of the following)
Fastball – 63 mph (min)
Riseball – 60 mph (min)
Change-up – 45 mph or 18 mph slower than maximum pitch speed
Curveball – 60 mph (min)
Dropball – 63 mph (min)
Catchers (Must meet each of the following)
Throw Home to Second – 2.0 sec. (max)
Throwing Speed – 55 mph (min)
Run Home to Home – 12.5 sec. (max)
Bat Speed – 50 mph (min)
Run Home to 1st – 2.95 sec. (max)
Push-ups – 30
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by Gone in 2.6 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:20 am

I'll focus on home to home times since the error on hand timing is about .25 rendering home to first times useless (error too big a percentage of the over all time).

What constitutes a "good" time is completely dependent on they type of player and what their
role is. A pure slap hitter should be in the low to mid 11's home to home in the older ages
unless she can legitimately show power like an Ashley Charters (Players in the 12's are going to get thrown out at first too often if the ball isn't perfectly placed).

A good time for a first baseman or catcher who hits with legitimate power? As long as they can do a home run trot it's fine!
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by SnocatzDad » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:34 am

I timed our entire 14U team last year. I made them bunt a ball and run to first, clock starts when bat hits ball and stops when foot hits bag. IMO this timing method greatly reduces error. I made everyone (no lefties on team) try from both right side and left side

The range from right side was 3.0 to 4.5. Fastest three kids were 3.0, 3.1, 3.3 most others were centered around 3.7 to 3.8.

The range from the left side was 2.9 to 5.2. Only two kids got faster, most couldn't handle the change in footwork and actually got slower even though they were closer.

I like the drill because
#1 Any time you break out a stopwatch or any kind of measuring device, effort goes way up.
#2 Trained them to not waste time looking where their bunt went and just release and run.
#3 Practices how to shed your bat in this situation so that it doesn't hit the bunt or trip you
#4 Any time spent bunting in practice is time well spent.
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by Tucson » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:46 pm

I've seen those olympic stats before and always wonder how they figure that Nuveman is anywhere near 2.95 down the line.
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by Coach11 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:16 pm

Tucson wrote:I've seen those olympic stats before and always wonder how they figure that Nuveman is anywhere near 2.95 down the line.


Not even on a bicycle going downhill.
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