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by Sam » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:25 am

The truth is that male coaches are, on a whole, better coaches than females. We live baseball and game strategy early in life. It becomes evident every year at all levels of softball. 5-0 lead in the 6th.....opponent has a runner on 3rd with no outs.....female coach plays her infield in......If I had a dollar for every time I saw that, I'd be.......well, not rich,.....but I've seen it a ton of times.......with a few male coaches as well.
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by Hinky » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:24 am

Skarp wrote:
Hinky wrote:
Schmick wrote:All the guy has to do is say he "identifies" as a female. Then he gets a scholarship and gets to play against the girls. It's already happening in track and field. Back east.


reflecting on history
there has never been equality across the board. So this topic of finding what is equal, IE: laws, rules & standards, will continue to float around making small adjustments here and there trying to figure out what equality really is, which includes what people's rights are or should be.

certainly there's a lot more to it than just the person standing up and saying I identify as. just saying it isn't that simple for people in that situation.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I know that's just what I want: authority figures making "adjustments" to laws, rules, and standards in order to manufacture equality in an inherently unequal world. What could possibly go wrong?


Authority figures already treating people unequally regardless of the laws
already in place!

If there weren't changes made to help equalize women's role in sports... Amongst other things too... Softball would certainly still be back in the Dark Ages.

I don't follow the bandwagon for all these political strides being made out there. But realistically there has been a lot of change in our nation in the past 50-60 years. That with out those changes millions of people would be adversely affected if women & and people of all creeds, didn't have an equal chance to work and equal pay in the workplace. (which still isnt equal)
Just sayin' ;)
I get that about the authority figures trying to make up their own laws. Don't like it at all! Authority figures should not be controlling the outcome of changing laws and things like taxes. Should be voted on. Here in California we had that happen and huge expense to our gasoline tax. Not OK. Seems whatever political process was originally implemented has definitely gone Haywire! perhaps that's why there's so much push-back across the board on all these topics people are getting fed up.


How about the Olympics.
Now we have Paralympics
Those can compete in & have
their own Olympics.
Created to give people an equal chance to compete.
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by Skarp » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:24 pm

Hinky wrote:
Skarp wrote:
Hinky wrote:
Schmick wrote:All the guy has to do is say he "identifies" as a female. Then he gets a scholarship and gets to play against the girls. It's already happening in track and field. Back east.


reflecting on history
there has never been equality across the board. So this topic of finding what is equal, IE: laws, rules & standards, will continue to float around making small adjustments here and there trying to figure out what equality really is, which includes what people's rights are or should be.

certainly there's a lot more to it than just the person standing up and saying I identify as. just saying it isn't that simple for people in that situation.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I know that's just what I want: authority figures making "adjustments" to laws, rules, and standards in order to manufacture equality in an inherently unequal world. What could possibly go wrong?


Authority figures already treating people unequally regardless of the laws
already in place!

If there weren't changes made to help equalize women's role in sports... Amongst other things too... Softball would certainly still be back in the Dark Ages.

I don't follow the bandwagon for all these political strides being made out there. But realistically there has been a lot of change in our nation in the past 50-60 years. That with out those changes millions of people would be adversely affected if women & and people of all creeds, didn't have an equal chance to work and equal pay in the workplace. (which still isnt equal)
Just sayin' ;)
I get that about the authority figures trying to make up their own laws. Don't like it at all! Authority figures should not be controlling the outcome of changing laws and things like taxes. Should be voted on. Here in California we had that happen and huge expense to our gasoline tax. Not OK. Seems whatever political process was originally implemented has definitely gone Haywire! perhaps that's why there's so much push-back across the board on all these topics people are getting fed up.


How about the Olympics.
Now we have Paralympics
Those can compete in & have
their own Olympics.
Created to give people an equal chance to compete.

:roll:
After 6 decades of total war on masculinity in this country (and the entire western world, actually), boys are in a state of absolute crisis. They are dropping out of H.S. more, going to and graduating from college less, failing to find meaningful careers and relationships, etc. Unable to conform with the expectations of a feminized society and its pathetic institutions, more and more boys are choosing to isolate from productive society--immersing themselves in video games, drugs, porn...whatever. Meanwhile women enjoy preference and privilege through every stage of life, and are dramatically outperforming men in every meaningful and/or measurable way. Yet we're still prancing out nonsense about "wage gaps". Still trying to flog the dead horse of patriarchal oppression.

Here's a news flash: women have always been the dominant sex. Women run circles around men in the spheres of interpersonal and sexual politics, which means they rule the roost. Always have. Read Shakespeare. Read the Icelandic Sagas. Do they describe cowed, subservient women, or do they describe strong women wielding significant power and often playing the roles of puppetmasters in the ostensible world of men? Women dominated by men...hah! Look around you. Does that describe any of the relationships that you actually observe in your personal life? We're sold a story about female oppression and we buy it even though half of the population is female and yet we've never actually seen it.

The "wage gap" is a total fabrication. When you control for other relevant variables--such as the preferences and choices of women themselves, the so-called gap completely disappears. Women don't want to work as hard, or as long, as men. And good for them. Women avoid certain types of jobs, especially dangerous jobs which often command higher pay. Again, good for them. Women take long breaks in their careers in order to raise children--often dropping out of the employment market altogether. Women are temperamentally more interested in people, whereas men are more interested in things--so men choose careers in things like engineering, and making stuff, whereas women gravitate to fields like healthcare and social services. The majority of medical school graduates are now women, for example. There are also more women enrolled in law school (a total disaster in the making).

For 99.999% of human history working outside of the domicile consisted of highly dangerous, back-breaking, life-shortening labor...which was performed almost exclusively by men. Over this same period of time, women had no reliable means of controlling reproduction, so there was a certain level of natural dependence on a male provider inherent in the situation. But the second that automation and specialization (and reliable birth control) made outside careers attractive and accessible to women in large numbers, women immediately started entering those careers in large numbers.

So if we are to believe the oppression narrative, men spent thousands of years accumulating a massive power advantage--which advantage they used to forcibly relegate women to roles of domestic and sexual servitude--only to have that power dismantled in a single generation? That's not a story of oppression. That's a story of women changing their minds. When it was better for them to stay in the home, they stayed in the home. When it was better to do something else, they did something else. I notice that you don't see many women working high steel, or wading through sewer pipes, or doing construction. Gee, I wonder why?
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by Skarp » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:02 pm

And while I'm on the subject, why is it that with liberals, who are always quick to claim the moral high ground when it comes to "greed"--why is it that everything always boils down to money with them? Why is everything always about material attainment? Someone else has MOAR, so I want MOAR too!! They worked harder? Doesn't matter. They added more value? Don't care. MOAR!!!

Instead of bullshit wage gaps, why not look at things like work-life balance, career satisfaction, overall happiness, etc.? Women far outperform men on those metrics. Because women are far less likely to continue doing things that they don't want to do.

And why should they? Consider this: two young adults, one male, and one female, graduate from college and go to work in their chosen fields. Both work for a few years, and after that time both come to the realization that their chosen careers suck royal ass. In fact, they both conclude that work itself isn't very fun, and that they don't want to do it anymore. Instead, both decide that they are going to get married and rely on the financial support of their spouse. Do the domestic thing. What are the odds of each being able to pull that plan off? Hint: the one who can't is the one who is really getting the short end of the stick.

Men have lower job satisfaction because men will continue working at jobs they hate. They do this because, if they were raised right, they have a sense of duty that outweighs the unpleasantness of the job--and they do it because they live in a society which will accept literally any excuse for a woman's failure but no excuse whatsoever for a man's.
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by Skarp » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:40 am

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Yo brother, long time. What's shakin'?
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by Hinky » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:19 am

Ponder that much skarp?!!!!
Sounds like an old martyr...
then you post elsewhere take away Title 9. Lol !
Dumb jab on a womens softball website, but hey you've got to support that martyr role! :)

imo
Working role should be for everybody!
As for equality, don't think everybody should be offered a job just for the sake of equality. Definitely believe people should have to bring skill sets to the table for the equal opportunity
for a job Etc....
Moving forward.... without going to college & getting a degree it's going to be extremely tough for people to have any type of job to support the cost of living.
Which has certainly changed intensely just in 30 years.
Reflecting on Southern California 25-30 years ago without any college degree people could get a job, say in a Warehouse, and be able to afford rent.. now to live here you would need 3 of those incomes to cover rent.
Just saying...
Without Title 9 passing this website probably wouldn't be here cuz there wouldn't be anybody who could afford
softball along with the cost of living.
(we know how tough the cost of both is even with both parents working)

Now, time for more softball......
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by Skarp » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:06 am

Hinky wrote:Ponder that much skarp?!!!!
Sounds like an old martyr...
then you post elsewhere take away Title 9. Lol !
Dumb jab on a womens softball website, but hey you've got to support that martyr role! :)

imo
Working role should be for everybody!
As for equality, don't think everybody should be offered a job just for the sake of equality. Definitely believe people should have to bring skill sets to the table for the equal opportunity
for a job Etc....
Moving forward.... without going to college & getting a degree it's going to be extremely tough for people to have any type of job to support the cost of living.
Which has certainly changed intensely just in 30 years.
Reflecting on Southern California 25-30 years ago without any college degree people could get a job, say in a Warehouse, and be able to afford rent.. now to live here you would need 3 of those incomes to cover rent.
Just saying...
Without Title 9 passing this website probably wouldn't be here cuz there wouldn't be anybody who could afford
softball along with the cost of living.
(we know how tough the cost of both is even with both parents working)

Now, time for more softball......

I ponder all sorts of things. In the context of posting on public forums, I find it vastly preferable to embarrassing myself by vomiting out a bunch of inane, unconsidered nonsense that won't withstand 5 seconds of scrutiny. Something to ponder.

Martyrdom implies death or defeat. At last count, those would apply to me on this site approximately 0% of the time. Maybe you were searching for another word?

With respect to the rising cost of living and changes in employment dynamics, it's interesting that you mention them in this discussion, considering that the primary causal factor of both was precisely the entry of large numbers of women into the workforce. Simple supply and demand. Double the supply of anything, including labor, and the cost for that thing will drop significantly. This drop manifested both in the level of wages offered by employers, and also in the costs of everything due to the larger volume of income dollars sloshing around in the economy chasing goods and services. Both of which were great for employers/sellers and terrible for employees/buyers.

Of course the joke was ultimately on women. They demanded the right to work, and now they have no choice but to work--just to afford the same standard of living they enjoyed before. And of course a nice ancillary punch in the face to working families is the fact that whereas families used to have a contingent earner who could step in if something happened to the primary earner, now both earners are necessary just to meet the cost of living. So the risk has doubled. If anything happens to either parent it's a total disaster for the family. Brilliant!

College degrees are fools' gold. The quality of the product is garbage, and the cost, courtesy of government-guaranteed loans doled out to anyone with a pulse and an IQ over 25, is astronomical. A high percentage of college grads wind up in careers they could have obtained without spending a day in college. Only now they have $200k in non-dischargeable debt. Great investment!

My daughter went to college, but neither of my sons will. Not without a clear objective and a strategy that pencils. If you want your kids to sidestep the parade of horribles you outline above, tell them to learn a skill and start a business. Tell them to find a way to create tangible value for people who will pay them for it. Much better than paying huge $$ for a worthless credential which distinguishes you from almost nobody, and then praying that someone will pay you some minimally adequate income for the next 40 years. That may have been smart at some point. Now it's just dumb.

I just saved you a fortune. Thank me.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:02 am

Skarp wrote:
Hinky wrote:
Skarp wrote:
Hinky wrote:
Schmick wrote:All the guy has to do is say he "identifies" as a female. Then he gets a scholarship and gets to play against the girls. It's already happening in track and field. Back east.


reflecting on history
there has never been equality across the board. So this topic of finding what is equal, IE: laws, rules & standards, will continue to float around making small adjustments here and there trying to figure out what equality really is, which includes what people's rights are or should be.

certainly there's a lot more to it than just the person standing up and saying I identify as. just saying it isn't that simple for people in that situation.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I know that's just what I want: authority figures making "adjustments" to laws, rules, and standards in order to manufacture equality in an inherently unequal world. What could possibly go wrong?


Authority figures already treating people unequally regardless of the laws
already in place!

If there weren't changes made to help equalize women's role in sports... Amongst other things too... Softball would certainly still be back in the Dark Ages.

I don't follow the bandwagon for all these political strides being made out there. But realistically there has been a lot of change in our nation in the past 50-60 years. That with out those changes millions of people would be adversely affected if women & and people of all creeds, didn't have an equal chance to work and equal pay in the workplace. (which still isnt equal)
Just sayin' ;)
I get that about the authority figures trying to make up their own laws. Don't like it at all! Authority figures should not be controlling the outcome of changing laws and things like taxes. Should be voted on. Here in California we had that happen and huge expense to our gasoline tax. Not OK. Seems whatever political process was originally implemented has definitely gone Haywire! perhaps that's why there's so much push-back across the board on all these topics people are getting fed up.


How about the Olympics.
Now we have Paralympics
Those can compete in & have
their own Olympics.
Created to give people an equal chance to compete.

:roll:
After 6 decades of total war on masculinity in this country (and the entire western world, actually), boys are in a state of absolute crisis. They are dropping out of H.S. more, going to and graduating from college less, failing to find meaningful careers and relationships, etc. Unable to conform with the expectations of a feminized society and its pathetic institutions, more and more boys are choosing to isolate from productive society--immersing themselves in video games, drugs, porn...whatever. Meanwhile women enjoy preference and privilege through every stage of life, and are dramatically outperforming men in every meaningful and/or measurable way. Yet we're still prancing out nonsense about "wage gaps". Still trying to flog the dead horse of patriarchal oppression.

Here's a news flash: women have always been the dominant sex. Women run circles around men in the spheres of interpersonal and sexual politics, which means they rule the roost. Always have. Read Shakespeare. Read the Icelandic Sagas. Do they describe cowed, subservient women, or do they describe strong women wielding significant power and often playing the roles of puppetmasters in the ostensible world of men? Women dominated by men...hah! Look around you. Does that describe any of the relationships that you actually observe in your personal life? We're sold a story about female oppression and we buy it even though half of the population is female and yet we've never actually seen it.

The "wage gap" is a total fabrication. When you control for other relevant variables--such as the preferences and choices of women themselves, the so-called gap completely disappears. Women don't want to work as hard, or as long, as men. And good for them. Women avoid certain types of jobs, especially dangerous jobs which often command higher pay. Again, good for them. Women take long breaks in their careers in order to raise children--often dropping out of the employment market altogether. Women are temperamentally more interested in people, whereas men are more interested in things--so men choose careers in things like engineering, and making stuff, whereas women gravitate to fields like healthcare and social services. The majority of medical school graduates are now women, for example. There are also more women enrolled in law school (a total disaster in the making).

For 99.999% of human history working outside of the domicile consisted of highly dangerous, back-breaking, life-shortening labor...which was performed almost exclusively by men. Over this same period of time, women had no reliable means of controlling reproduction, so there was a certain level of natural dependence on a male provider inherent in the situation. But the second that automation and specialization (and reliable birth control) made outside careers attractive and accessible to women in large numbers, women immediately started entering those careers in large numbers.

So if we are to believe the oppression narrative, men spent thousands of years accumulating a massive power advantage--which advantage they used to forcibly relegate women to roles of domestic and sexual servitude--only to have that power dismantled in a single generation? That's not a story of oppression. That's a story of women changing their minds. When it was better for them to stay in the home, they stayed in the home. When it was better to do something else, they did something else. I notice that you don't see many women working high steel, or wading through sewer pipes, or doing construction. Gee, I wonder why?



Skarp ... I am curious why you state that more women than men enrolled in Law School is a "total disaster the making" ?
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by Skarp » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:42 am

GIMNEPIWO wrote:Skarp ... I am curious why you state that more women than men enrolled in Law School is a "total disaster the making" ?


Lol. In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. So I'll take the bait.

Legal reasoning, correctly practiced, is the application of established (preferably tested) principles, and logic, to patterns of facts. Without bias or emotion. Women do all sorts of things better than men, but logical, unemotional decision-making isn't one of them.

Unfortunately we now live in a womanly society producing womanly men and womanly laws and policies designed to assuage emotional needs rather than solve real problems or produce best outcomes. There's a reason for that.
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by Hinky » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:37 am

Not subscribing to skarbles
LOL "book of the month club"
Reads like an inferiority complex,
who needs a support group! :lol:
#menmatter...

:roll: uhh softball website...
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