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by BonezMom » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:50 am

coachEd wrote:Grammy, check you score book. Scoring runs in top of an inning when time expires means they dont count. Score of last meeting vs. Franchise and Desperados was 4-2. The first meeting was 2-1, with Franchise scoring their only 2 runs on a dropped pop up on the infield with 2 outs after the SS and 3B collided going for the ball when Desp were up 1-0, and then a rookie ump blowing a call at home to take the tying run away from Desperados. As I recall, that run came home on a bunt when the Franchise 1B chucked the ball out into RF. AAs then whipped up on them doing exactly the same thing, bunt, bunt, bunt, bunt, and did I say bunt !! Closer got it right.



Hi Grammy.... Dynasty only lost to Franchise 5-0 yes it was a loss... but not to the point you make it out to be....

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by TheCloser » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:55 am

Damn, Grammy is fired up. No pressure on your team this weekend.
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by Empire United » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:11 pm

onthejuice wrote:Just a guess, but the #1 catcher is your DD.


onthejuice wrote: Hey, you forgot about Empire United, #1 catcher in 10U ;)


LOL. Close, the manager's daughter is the catcher. #1 was referring to our #1 for those with comprehension issues (pony tail guy this means you). I also referenced our #2 and our #3 catchers in the same sentence in that previous post.

But to further answer the question from a page or two back after returning from the TCS tournament, SoCal Aztecs 10U has an outstanding catcher !!! We saw her thrown down to 2nd and get the out with pitches in the dirt. Several throw outs to first base. Good job whoever she is.
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by Empire United » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:25 pm

coachEd wrote:Well, nobody has a "great" catcher. Some of these girls are pretty decent receivers. Some of them have strong arms (but poor footwork) and throw out a relatively high percentage of runners. Some of them do a decent job blocking balls in the dirt (or at least attempt to). But, none of them is the complete package, nor could you possibly expect that they would be at 10u. None of them has the leadership skills that makes a "great" catcher, nor could you possibly expect that they would. You are loathe to even find a "great" catcher in 14u, much less in 10u. Being able to throw out runners is meaningless if you cant block a pitch in the dirt and let runners move up for "free". Blocking balls and being a good receiver is meaningless if you cant throw out anybody stealing because you have lousy footwork. So, there are some girls that do a pretty decent job overall, but you wont find any "great" catchers in 10u.

I will say this about the overall level of play of the 2009 class of 10u. This is my second go around with my oldest DD now in college. Comparing the 2001 10u class with this year's 2009 class, there is just no comparison since the level of play of the players has picked up dramatically in the past 8 years. There are alot more girls now taking private lessons (pitching, fielding, hitting, catching) at 7 or 8 yrs. old than there were back then. So, the level of play for this year's class is well above 2001. The good thing is, from my 2001 10u team, 50% of those girls are now playing softball in college (all of them are in college, thankfully). I can only hope to see an even higher number for the 2009 class 8 years from now. And isnt that a big part of why they are playing travel ball to begin with; to hopefully go to college? These girls are only going to get better by playing at the highest level possible to keep ahead of the rest of the pack. So, for the naysayers that think playing travel ball at 10u is ridiculous, think again. Times have changed alot in the past 8 years, and they will continue to change over the next 8 years.


I don't agree with much in your first paragraph (first few sentences at least) because it negates why we play in age groups to begin with. Yes there are "great" 10U catchers, certainly. They may not be great or even good 12U or 14U catchers but if there are great pitchers, SS, 1st baseman (you get my point) there are certainly "great" catchers relative to their age when comparing to other 10U catchers which is what you can truly reference against.

I found your observations of 2001 vs. 2009 10U travel very interesting, thank you for sharing.

I am interested to know how many teams (roughly) were there in 2001 vs. 2009 ? Many I speak with say there are not as many 10U's currently as there were in past years.
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by baller23 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:25 pm

I dont agree with the post either just came back from tcs in hemet and seen great catchers . Played against teamsmith and we noticed there catchers were calling the pitches , i could say that is leadership in 10u .
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by Platinum » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:58 am

Who won the TCS in Hemet? Heard Crunch beat Victory in Vegas.
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by MVPETE » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:39 am

I heard Crunch over Victory too. That was probably a good game. I saw a couple of the 10U games in Hemet - heard Franchise took it over Desperados. Some of the pitchers in 10U can really bring it. Saw one girl from Franchise on FIRE against Rattlers on Sat Night, then the lights on the field went out and I guess they ended the game. Saw the Dynasty against Desperado's to play in the championship - game. Dynasty really battled and took advantage of some errors but Desperados battled back and won that game. Both teams showed serious heart.
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by J.D. » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:53 am

Victory and Crunch were very dominate in the Vegas tourney. They played each other twice. Victory won the first game 2-1 and Crunch won the second game 4-3. Both teams ended up in the Championship game Sunday night.
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by T-Baller » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:08 am

There was definately some good softball to watch in 10U but in the same regards there was some match ups that were painful to watch. The disparity between some teams was downright dangerous. I saw several "little" girls get hit hard by some bigger, stronger girls. I mean physically hit with the ball because they were unable to field it or served up fat pitches that more experienced players took right back at them.

I saw "best catcher in 10U" play - I give her props - she has a good throw down and quick release. Saw her throw out several girl.

Franchise did take it over Desperados - what happened Coach Ed? Did the bunt, bunt, theory not work?

I would have loved to see the CRUNCH/VICTORY team play against each other in Vegas.
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by SSdad » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:38 am

J.D. wrote:Victory and Crunch were very dominate in the Vegas tourney. They played each other twice. Victory won the first game 2-1 and Crunch won the second game 4-3. Both teams ended up in the Championship game Sunday night.
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