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Bone Head High School Coaches - New CIF Rule

by Ace » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:27 pm

Nzane wrote:I have had 2 girls have to attend mandatory Saturday practice. Both were told if they didn't attend, they would not make Varsity. One had to miss our 1st game at the AA's Toys For Tots because of this. It's not right. These girls already lose almost 3 months of softball to H.S. Now, mandatory Saturday practices? Making them miss Travel? Thats just wrong!!!


HaHa, its no different for the HS coaches. Its just like travel ball where the season seems to start earlier every year. This year I saw tryouts posted on eteamz DURING the week of nationals! I think the HS coaches feel like the HAVE to start earlier to stay competetive with the other schools that are already starting. In HS you have alot of rivalries and if the school down the street is practicing, you can bet the A.D. will want his program practicing also. Just because a kid plays travel ball doesnt mean she is gonna get special treatment. Sally jo rec ball player has parents that will complain to the A.D. that the "good players" dont have to practice so why does "MY" daughter. Its not always as easy as it looks.
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by Nzane » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:17 am

Ace wrote:
Nzane wrote:I have had 2 girls have to attend mandatory Saturday practice. Both were told if they didn't attend, they would not make Varsity. One had to miss our 1st game at the AA's Toys For Tots because of this. It's not right. These girls already lose almost 3 months of softball to H.S. Now, mandatory Saturday practices? Making them miss Travel? Thats just wrong!!!


HaHa, its no different for the HS coaches. Its just like travel ball where the season seems to start earlier every year. This year I saw tryouts posted on eteamz DURING the week of nationals! I think the HS coaches feel like the HAVE to start earlier to stay competetive with the other schools that are already starting. In HS you have alot of rivalries and if the school down the street is practicing, you can bet the A.D. will want his program practicing also. Just because a kid plays travel ball doesnt mean she is gonna get special treatment. Sally jo rec ball player has parents that will complain to the A.D. that the "good players" dont have to practice so why does "MY" daughter. Its not always as easy as it looks.


But, they get them 5 days a week. No Travel team practices 5 days a week. And, when they are in H.S., they can not compete with a Travel Team, just practice 1 day. It's not the same. 5 days a week is fine. But, making girls miss Travel GAMES on the weekend during THE FALL?? Come on now.......
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by Sftbll4ever » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:35 am

My dd's just got their varsity schedule through March. Looks like they are only going to miss one day to the mandatory HS requirement. Good thing it is a Saturday. TB Coach already knows about it and is ok with it. Our HS coach also implemented madatory individual hitting. She paired them up with other girls (mine luckly get to hit together) and need to stay after practice to hit. She made it very clear that this is priority and that if you have a lesson for something else, you need to change it. I had a problem with this, as I have a PERFECT pitching lesson time. Good thing is, they will be done with the hitting before the pitching lesson. I can appreciate all that our coach is trying to do for our program. We have struggled for years, but I feel that the motivation by our coach is starting to rub off on the girls, NICE!!! :D
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by winginit » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:59 am

My DD is not in HS yet, but I can just imagine how some of these coaches feel about playing another sport and travel ball! (sarcasm)
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by Ace » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:24 am

Nzane wrote:
Ace wrote:
Nzane wrote:I have had 2 girls have to attend mandatory Saturday practice. Both were told if they didn't attend, they would not make Varsity. One had to miss our 1st game at the AA's Toys For Tots because of this. It's not right. These girls already lose almost 3 months of softball to H.S. Now, mandatory Saturday practices? Making them miss Travel? Thats just wrong!!!


HaHa, its no different for the HS coaches. Its just like travel ball where the season seems to start earlier every year. This year I saw tryouts posted on eteamz DURING the week of nationals! I think the HS coaches feel like the HAVE to start earlier to stay competetive with the other schools that are already starting. In HS you have alot of rivalries and if the school down the street is practicing, you can bet the A.D. will want his program practicing also. Just because a kid plays travel ball doesnt mean she is gonna get special treatment. Sally jo rec ball player has parents that will complain to the A.D. that the "good players" dont have to practice so why does "MY" daughter. Its not always as easy as it looks.


But, they get them 5 days a week. No Travel team practices 5 days a week. And, when they are in H.S., they can not compete with a Travel Team, just practice 1 day. It's not the same. 5 days a week is fine. But, making girls miss Travel GAMES on the weekend during THE FALL?? Come on now.......


Dont get me wrong, I agree with you, but I also see the HS side. If everyone is practicing then you cant be the one school that is not. Heck Valencia was going strong at the begining of summer vacation. I had 5:00 practices and one of my players would show up late every day and exhausted. That was in the beginning of summer vacation! But on the other hand Valencia has a great program.
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by Nzane » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:43 pm

But, I'm not saying dont practice. But, mandatory, ON SATURDAY?? Our SS had to miss afreaking Tournament game. Thats wrong......
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by anonlooker » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:25 pm

Nzane wrote:But, I'm not saying dont practice. But, mandatory, ON SATURDAY?? Our SS had to miss afreaking Tournament game. Thats wrong......


It's only mandatory if you choose to play HS ball. And since you have a choice, it's not mandatory at all!
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by weekend4trvl » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:56 pm

anonlooker wrote:
Nzane wrote:But, I'm not saying dont practice. But, mandatory, ON SATURDAY?? Our SS had to miss afreaking Tournament game. Thats wrong......


It's only mandatory if you choose to play HS ball. And since you have a choice, it's not mandatory at all!

The reason that so many girls play HS ball is because they want to...the primary reason why...lots of friends...and NO PARENTS. The girl that missed the freaking game on Sat. could probably care less.
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by kevin » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:46 pm

When the Association rule was voted on by CIF, many of the voters thought the rule was only being altered for water polo. Believe it or not this rule change was driven by water polo of all sports. Our AD told me he thinks it will get put up for a vote again this year and it will most likely will be amended to reflect its original intentions.

My kids hs coach is also a girls basketball coach so I don't have to worry about the overtime practices. :lol:
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by Sftbll4ever » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:03 am

kevin wrote:When the Association rule was voted on by CIF, many of the voters thought the rule was only being altered for water polo. Believe it or not this rule change was driven by water polo of all sports. Our AD told me he thinks it will get put up for a vote again this year and it will most likely will be amended to reflect its original intentions.

My kids hs coach is also a girls basketball coach so I don't have to worry about the overtime practices. :lol:


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