Bone Head High School Coaches - New CIF Rule

[jmo]

Majority of my girls will be going to one school, so far they have been doing light workouts with wieght room and track work mixed during the week he has an understanding of the game and knows that these girls along with others on his team play travel and are getting the proper workout.

I am worried about a few of my others who are being told once they get back from winter break they are expected to be working out a little more after tryouts and when the team is selected, one has even told me that high school coach wants her to shut down travel ball mid-January

any others in this boat?

We have half & half. One h.s. coach runs the Victory organization and understands all of his players are in travel ball. They're not starting until the official CIF date of Feb. 16. Others don't get it or understand -- like the two Gold qualifying tournaments in Jan./Feb. -- and are planning like travel ball doesn't exist. This was my point to begin with.

Canyon has been playing high school games for the last month.

Also, they are not Gold qualifying tournaments but Gold Classification tournaments. Big difference.

I do agree I think that it is not in the best interest of the players that High School is starting games and practices so early. I do not think that the CIF office thought it out completely when they made the rule change. Kids are getting hurt, burnt out, etc too early in the season.

[Ace]

The assosiation rule is brought up every year and the vote is usually very close. This year the argument was that "underprivileged" player were not being coached throughout the year because they can not afford travel sports. The HS coaches could not help these players get better because of the rule. They eliminated it to help kids, but its not perfect.

[DodgerBlue's]

Really have no problem with the rule, but we are lucky with our coach. I am looking forward the break and to watch my daughter play at the school both my wife and myslef attended.

But I am also wondering about those coaches at other schools who have heavy invlovment in travel, and who can 'influence' a plyers decision on where and when to play...?

[Ace]

Really have no problem with the rule, but we are lucky with our coach. I am looking forward the break and to watch my daughter play at the school both my wife and myslef attended.

But I am also wondering about those coaches at other schools who have heavy invlovment in travel, and who can 'influence' a plyers decision on where and when to play...?

Even though they eliminated the assosiation rule, there is still the "non compete" rule. If a player is playing on a hs coaches travel team, she must live within that schools district to play for him at HS. That keeps TB coaches from "recruiting" his entire tb team to his schoool. As far as HS coaches playing favorites, It happens. Same as REC and same as at the work place. THAT is just a crappy part of life. Unless your being favored that is

[DodgerBlue's]

example of the situation I am refering to:

Very talented player on a team from last year who did well at Nationals, team is no longer together so she looks elsewhere. Team she is on now there is little playing time, but she is told to stay here in the organization and wait it out. This person is also high school coach so if she leaves she may be punished on school team.

This is the situation I am speaking of...

[OCTravelCoach]

Majority of my girls will be going to one school, so far they have been doing light workouts with wieght room and track work mixed during the week he has an understanding of the game and knows that these girls along with others on his team play travel and are getting the proper workout.

I am worried about a few of my others who are being told once they get back from winter break they are expected to be working out a little more after tryouts and when the team is selected, one has even told me that high school coach wants her to shut down travel ball mid-January

any others in this boat?

We have half & half. One h.s. coach runs the Victory organization and understands all of his players are in travel ball. They're not starting until the official CIF date of Feb. 16. Others don't get it or understand -- like the two Gold qualifying tournaments in Jan./Feb. -- and are planning like travel ball doesn't exist. This was my point to begin with.

Canyon has been playing high school games for the last month.

Also, they are not Gold qualifying tournaments but Gold Classification tournaments. Big difference.

I do agree I think that it is not in the best interest of the players that High School is starting games and practices so early. I do not think that the CIF office thought it out completely when they made the rule change. Kids are getting hurt, burnt out, etc too early in the season.

"Classification" not qualifying, my bad

[Ace]

example of the situation I am refering to:

Very talented player on a team from last year who did well at Nationals, team is no longer together so she looks elsewhere. Team she is on now there is little playing time, but she is told to stay here in the organization and wait it out. This person is also high school coach so if she leaves she may be punished on school team.

This is the situation I am speaking of...

Yeah that happens. It sucks and it has happened to my players this year. (HS coach has TB team and told two of my players to quit my team and play for his. He implied that it would help them in the HS program to do so. I told my players that holding them back would only hurt his team so if he keeps them off Varsity he's not gonna win very many games. They called his bluff. I suggest this player your talking about should do the same.

[jmo]

We have half & half. One h.s. coach runs the Victory organization and understands all of his players are in travel ball. They're not starting until the official CIF date of Feb. 16. Others don't get it or understand -- like the two Gold qualifying tournaments in Jan./Feb. -- and are planning like travel ball doesn't exist. This was my point to begin with.[/quote]

Canyon has been playing high school games for the last month.

Also, they are not Gold qualifying tournaments but Gold Classification tournaments. Big difference.

I do agree I think that it is not in the best interest of the players that High School is starting games and practices so early. I do not think that the CIF office thought it out completely when they made the rule change. Kids are getting hurt, burnt out, etc too early in the season.

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"Classification" not qualifying, my bad[/quote]

That's OK - we are all just getting use to it.

[Nzane]

I have had 2 girls have to attend mandatory Saturday practice. Both were told if they didn't attend, they would not make Varsity. One had to miss our 1st game at the AA's Toys For Tots because of this. It's not right. These girls already lose almost 3 months of softball to H.S. Now, mandatory Saturday practices? Making them miss Travel? Thats just wrong!!!

[sprtsbimbo]

We must have gotten lucky with our high school coach. He practices on Wednesday afternoons from 3 to 5pm. If you have a lesson or TB practice you are free to go after 4-4:30ish. His thought process is if you are not of TB level and the TB players have to go he has more time to work with who isn't playing TB. His team has won league the last couple of years, placed 1,2,3 in CIF.

It works for him and for the girl's/parents. He trys to plan somethings around TB. We happen to have 8 on Varisty who play TB. Another 4/5 who need extra work in one area or another. He coaches Baseball TB so I think he gets it.

Again, we are lucky.