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Worst call in the history of softball!

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by Chin Music » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:14 am

wadeintothem wrote:
Chin Music wrote:Another one. Guy rips a seed down the first base line. Line drive just past first with chalk flying in the air the ump yells "foul ball" After agreeing that the ump saw the ball hit the line the ump said "But it hit the outside of the line"

Hmmm.. hardly even close to a worst call, and who knows, maybe even a good call if it hit outside the line.


In Softball there are 2 lines that run down to left and right from home plate. These are called foul lines. If a ball is hit in the air past 1B and hits any part of the line the ball is fair. The umpire admitted he saw the chalk fly. "He saw the ball hit the line"
Why are they called foul lines- if the ball is fair when it hits it? Fair Lines?
Why are they called foul poles -if the ball is fair if it hits it? Fair Poles?
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by thedoanezone » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:34 am

Chin Music wrote:
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Chin Music wrote:I was involved in a men's fastpitch game where an umpire called a batter out after he hit a game winning 3run HR for stepping on the plate as he hit it.


Guess I'm a bit confused. Why is this the "Worst call in the history of softball!"? The umpire correctly applied the rule. :?


Ever here of a "No-Call?" Football -last play of the game "Hail Mary" 99.9% of the time the ref. with not call any interference. Basketball- drive to the hoop at the buzzzzzer 99.9% no call unless your name is Kobe or Lebron. Just saying that you don't want to see any game decided by an ump or refs decisions.


You mean like ringing them up when they look at strike three with a full count, two outs and the bases loaded when the team batting is down a run.....or when the 2nd baseman gets run over trying to field a groundball with two outs and the tying or winning run on third...those kind of no calls...or where do you draw the line. If it doesn't go against your team???
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by MTR » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:41 pm

Chin Music wrote:Ever here of a "No-Call?" Football -last play of the game "Hail Mary" 99.9% of the time the ref. with not call any interference. Basketball- drive to the hoop at the buzzzzzer 99.9% no call unless your name is Kobe or Lebron. Just saying that you don't want to see any game decided by an ump or refs decisions.


So the umpire who is more courageous than the high-paid professionals is wrong for doing his job? GAFB! How about the players on the other team? Should they not expect the game official to have the courage to do their job for which they are paid?

"Putting away the whistle" by an official is a cowardly move. The same high-paid idiots who extol "letting it go" or "not ending a game on that call" are the first babies to complain when their team is on the short end.

A call by an official never decides the game, the players do. In your case, it was a DMB. Sometimes it is a DMF, DMC, DMR, but in this case, it is definitely not a DMU.
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by 2bucketdad » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:11 pm

Semis of a 10U fall tournament, there is a 10U team that will be playing 10U the following year, playing a 10U team that has to move up on Jan 1... 2 to 2 bottom of 7 and 2 outs bases loaded, full count and the 9th or 10th pitch to the batter pitcher throws the first change up of the inning, it appears to most to be a strike clearly too close to watch on a full count, it freezes the batter and the umpire, coaches and parents cheer as the catcher returns the ball to the pitcher and the fielding teams gets ready to start the ITB, blue calls ball 4 and the winning run walks in.
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by wadeintothem » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:57 pm

Chin Music wrote:
umpinva wrote:
Chin Music wrote:I was involved in a men's fastpitch game where an umpire called a batter out after he hit a game winning 3run HR for stepping on the plate as he hit it.


Guess I'm a bit confused. Why is this the "Worst call in the history of softball!"? The umpire correctly applied the rule. :?


Ever here of a "No-Call?" Football -last play of the game "Hail Mary" 99.9% of the time the ref. with not call any interference. Basketball- drive to the hoop at the buzzzzzer 99.9% no call unless your name is Kobe or Lebron. Just saying that you don't want to see any game decided by an ump or refs decisions.


Actually that was decided by the batter putting a foot on home plate and hitting the ball.

Change the name of this thread to "Most courageous call" or "best call" or "stupidest thing ever done by the last batter at bat"

but not worst call. You gotta stop blaming the umpires for players stuff. Now think up a bad call and join the thread.
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by wadeintothem » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:59 pm

Chin Music wrote:
wadeintothem wrote:
Chin Music wrote:Another one. Guy rips a seed down the first base line. Line drive just past first with chalk flying in the air the ump yells "foul ball" After agreeing that the ump saw the ball hit the line the ump said "But it hit the outside of the line"

Hmmm.. hardly even close to a worst call, and who knows, maybe even a good call if it hit outside the line.


In Softball there are 2 lines that run down to left and right from home plate. These are called foul lines. If a ball is hit in the air past 1B and hits any part of the line the ball is fair. The umpire admitted he saw the chalk fly. "He saw the ball hit the line"
Why are they called foul lines- if the ball is fair when it hits it? Fair Lines?
Why are they called foul poles -if the ball is fair if it hits it? Fair Poles?
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I dunno, I wasnt there. If umpire deemed it foul because it was outside the line, it was foul. maybe someone spilled chalk outside the lines, maybe you saw what you wanted to see, or maybe you wanted the umpire not to make the tough call like in the other thread, Or MAYBE bad call.
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by wadeintothem » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:02 pm

2bucketdad wrote:Semis of a 10U fall tournament, there is a 10U team that will be playing 10U the following year, playing a 10U team that has to move up on Jan 1... 2 to 2 bottom of 7 and 2 outs bases loaded, full count and the 9th or 10th pitch to the batter pitcher throws the first change up of the inning, it appears to most to be a strike clearly too close to watch on a full count, it freezes the batter and the umpire, coaches and parents cheer as the catcher returns the ball to the pitcher and the fielding teams gets ready to start the ITB, blue calls ball 4 and the winning run walks in.

hmmm 10U fall ball 2 to 2 bottom of 7 and 2 outs bases loaded, full count and the 9th or 10th pitch to the batter ?

LOL!

I can almost assure you that it was in fact a ball and I coulda phoned it in from home and not even seen the pitch. That umpire probably wasnt frozen, he was thinking! ROFL

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You know that PU woulda had to buy if it was a strike?

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by 2bucketdad » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:35 pm

Yeah, you're probably right.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:23 am

"Why are they called foul lines- if the ball is fair when it hits it? Fair Lines?
Why are they called foul poles -if the ball is fair if it hits it? Fair Poles?"

Chin Meister ... I'll tell you that when you tell me why we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway ?
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by MTR » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:52 am

Chin Music wrote:Why are they called foul lines- if the ball is fair when it hits it? Fair Lines?
Why are they called foul poles -if the ball is fair if it hits it? Fair Poles?


Because they are the lines which denote the beginning of foul territory, but in considered part of fair territory; Just like a dead ball line is the marker for the beginning of dead ball territory, but is considered part of playable territory.

For the sake of consistency, they are considered part of the area a player is permitted to use for play just as all other demarcation lines (batter's box, catcher's box, pitcher's circle, 3' line, coach's box, fence) are.

I would have no problem changing the reference. Or you could just move all the lines and poles at the fence into of foul ground. Of course, what would you do with a ball which hits the inside half of the foul pole? The (very valid) argument would be that if the ball hit the inside of the pole behind the fence, some part of that ball left the field of play in fair territory which would make it a fair ball.

If you want, we can start calling them the fair lines and fair poles, but that would just cause more confusion than what it is worth. :D
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