12u Season Rankings UPDATED 6/12

[Foul Ball Magnet]

OK, I have been a "lurker" here for around a year... this board provides me excellent entertainment and occasionally some good info after sifting through all the butthurt, hate and vitriol. I have a legit question that hopefully one of you experts can answer for me.

How exactly do the ASA Metros work? I see that both the KG Hitters 12U teams were in Sunnyvale at the NorCal Metros but I watched the KG Hitters 16U team kicking the crap outta everyone at the Oakland ASA Metros in Hayward. Since KG is out of Concord which is Oakland ASA territory, shouldn't all the KG teams and any other orgs in Alameda or CoCo county have to go to the Oakland Metro or can you just go where ever you want to? I keep hearing that the Oakland ASA metro is weak.. why is that? Bad administration or just apathy towards ASA?

By the way, for the 12U Oakland ASA Metros finals, Hot Shots beat CA. Crossfire 5 - 3. Glad I stuck around to watch, turned out to be a good game.

[JimineyCricket]

Don't understand exactly how brackets are selected but great loser bracket championship game in Nor Cal Metro..San Jose Sting was losing 10-7 top of the 7th..with 2 outs..nobody on base and a 2 out rally started..Sting got 4 runs on 2 outs and beat KG Hitter French 11-10..great comeback moment in softball

Sacramento had one even more dramatic in 12u this weekend. Foothill Gold '00 down 1 to Rapids in the bottom of the eighth inning (ITB), runner on second, two outs, 2-1 count, and the batter puts a wheel-house fastball over the left-field fence for a 2-run walk-off home run.

Maybe when the FC coaches get here from SoCal, they can teach how to intentionally walk the opposing team's best hitter when first is open with two outs.

[linedrivelouie]

How exactly do the ASA Metros work? I see that both the KG Hitters 12U teams were in Sunnyvale at the NorCal Metros but I watched the KG Hitters 16U team kicking the crap outta everyone at the Oakland ASA Metros in Hayward. Since KG is out of Concord which is Oakland ASA territory, shouldn't all the KG teams and any other orgs in Alameda or CoCo county have to go to the Oakland Metro or can you just go where ever you want to? I keep hearing that the Oakland ASA metro is weak.. why is that? Bad administration or just apathy towards ASA?

The Metro you play out of is based on the address your coach registers the team from. Normally it is the coaches home address. Example, Grapettes teams were in Nor Cal, Sacramento and San Jaoquin because they have teams in registered out of the Sacramento, Redding, Stockton and Tracy . So even though the Org is based out of Stockton it doesn't matter. Soon enough we will have at least one Firecrackers team in each of the 77 Local Association in the United States.

[Stealing Home]

Not in hiding just busy with work and nope still guessing. She is not on the Bombers.

Because you just quit on those girls

[Foul Ball Magnet]

The Metro you play out of is based on the address your coach registers the team from. Normally it is the coaches home address. Example, Grapettes teams were in Nor Cal, Sacramento and San Jaoquin because they have teams in registered out of the Sacramento, Redding, Stockton and Tracy . So even though the Org is based out of Stockton it doesn't matter. Soon enough we will have at least one Firecrackers team in each of the 77 Local Association in the United States.

OK, that makes sense to me. It just seemed really weird so few teams were at that Oakland Metro but CA. Crossfire, Lady Hustle and the Ladyhawks all had multiple teams there so I guess the bigger orgs in the East Bay were represented.

[OverTheFence]

Speaking of the Rapids - Is there anyone out there who thinks, other than a few of us, that their #1 pitcher crow hops??? Sad thing to see at this age level, it should have been corrected at 10U.

[Coach Kat]

ASA Association Championships (Metro's):

Coaches physical address is irrelevant.
Said team must play in the association tournament that a majority of its players are registered in. For instance I live in the Greater San Joaquin Association but a majority of my players are from the Greater Sacramento Softball Association. I must play in the Greater Sacramento Softball Association because that is where a majority of my players are from. Hope this helps...

[JimineyCricket]

Speaking of the Rapids - Is there anyone out there who thinks, other than a few of us, that their #1 pitcher crow hops??? Sad thing to see at this age level, it should have been corrected at 10U.

No need for adults to be calling out individual 12 year-olds for their struggles with mechanics on this site. Some pitchers struggle with minor mechanical issues, some with controlling their emotions, some dealing with pressure situations. This is the age when those things get corrected. Keep in mind, there are much worse issues than the occaisonal crow hop with one or more players on YOUR team - do you really want to give a reason for people to start bringing them up here? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

[OverTheFence]

Jiminey, I find that a strange response to my post. Why shouldn't it be discussed here? Don't you feel it is important for a pitcher to learn how to pitch legally and most of all don't you think it is the coach's and parent's RESPONSIBILITY to see that she does so she won't get into serious trouble as she advances through the age divisions???? (Of course then we have to include the umpires that should know the rules and be calling illegal pitches.) It would not be too cool to be pitching in a 14U, 16U or 18U championship game, have an umpire who knows what an illegal pitch is, make that call with the winning run on third base! It even happens in college, which I find absolutely astounding! Where were these girl's pitching instructors or coaches during all those developing years?? It isn't the pitcher's fault, it is the fault of their instructors and coaches.
12U is huge when it comes to developing proper mechanics and when a pitcher consistently throws illegal pitches, she should be called on it.

[sir88]

Jiminey, I find that a strange response to my post. Why shouldn't it be discussed here? Don't you feel it is important for a pitcher to learn how to pitch legally and most of all don't you think it is the coach's and parent's RESPONSIBILITY to see that she does so she won't get into serious trouble as she advances through the age divisions???? (Of course then we have to include the umpires that should know the rules and be calling illegal pitches.) It would not be too cool to be pitching in a 14U, 16U or 18U championship game, have an umpire who knows what an illegal pitch is, make that call with the winning run on third base! It even happens in college, which I find absolutely astounding! Where were these girl's pitching instructors or coaches during all those developing years?? It isn't the pitcher's fault, it is the fault of their instructors and coaches.
12U is huge when it comes to developing proper mechanics and when a pitcher consistently throws illegal pitches, she should be called on it.

Did you ever watch Ally Carda pitch? She was called for crow hoping all the time in high school. I think she did ok fir herself. What you think is a crow hop isnt aleays a crow hop. Ive seen the Rapids pitcher multiple times. Didnt see anything that drastic. Besides really hoping can take away power. Sounds like an excuse from a parent whos team struggled against the Rapids at one time or another.