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by DonnieS » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:41 am

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by Dugout Dad » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:01 am

I think it reads $50 a year for an ammo permit. But the article makes it sound like it's per box :o . Need to do research. Regardless, another sneak attack on the 2nd amendment.
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by DonnieS » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:04 am

Dugout Dad wrote:I think it reads $50 a year for an ammo permit. But the article makes it sound like it's per box :o . Need to do research. Regardless, another sneak attack on the 2nd amendment.


I read $50 a year for a permit to buy ammo.
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by PDad » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:32 am

The bill has only passed the Senate so far. Looking at it, the $50 per year is the max for the vendor license. The fee for the purchase authorization is an unspecified initial application fee. The renewal application fee clause was struck out.

Article 4. Ammunition Purchase Authorizations
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(g) The department shall recover the reasonable cost of administering this section by charging applicants an initial application fee.

(h) All fees received pursuant to this section shall be deposited into the Dealer’s Record of Sale Special Account of the General Fund.

(i) The implementation of this section by the department is exempt from the Administrative Procedure Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 11340) of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of the Government Code).

(j) The department shall annually review and shall adjust the fees specified in subdivision (g), if necessary, to fully fund, but not to exceed the reasonable costs of, the ammunition authorization program provided by this section, including the enforcement of this program.
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Article 5. Ammunition Vendor Licenses
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(a) The department may charge ammunition vendor license applicants a fee sufficient to reimburse the department for the reasonable costs of administering the license program, maintaining the registry of ammunition vendors, and necessary enforcement, provided however, that the fee shall not exceed fifty dollars ($50).


Here is a link to the actual bill - http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces ... 320140SB53
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by Dugout Dad » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:39 am

DonnieS wrote:
Dugout Dad wrote:I think it reads $50 a year for an ammo permit. But the article makes it sound like it's per box :o . Need to do research. Regardless, another sneak attack on the 2nd amendment.


I read $50 a year for a permit to buy ammo.


“Requiring a $50 ammo permit per purchase would make a box of defensive ammunition cost almost $100 for 20 rounds—that’s $2 per bullet. A box of 50 rounds of 22 Long Rifle ammunition (which would normally cost less than $2), would now cost $52 dollars. That’s over $1 per bullet for 22 Long Rifle ammunition.

This is the part I was referring to, which is a wrong analysis.
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by Safebyahare » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:32 am

Ugh,,,I''m about to find out,,,dd has been bugging me to go shooting for the last month, now that school is out I figured now would be a nice time to use that old ammo.
Ammo Rule 101,,,if you use the stash, replace the stash with fresh. Always keep a stash.
Rule 223,,,,if the end of world happens, ammo will be worth more than gold and oil.
End of world survival Rule 103,,,,trespassers will be shot,,,survivors will be shot again. :mrgreen:
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by Pale Rider » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:32 pm

Kennedy's got rich running illegal booze during Prohibition....looks like I can be the ammo pimp
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by DonnieS » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:11 pm

Pale Rider wrote:Kennedy's got rich running illegal booze during Prohibition....looks like I can be the ammo pimp


Lets do it.
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by Pale Rider » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:13 pm

DonnieS wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Kennedy's got rich running illegal booze during Prohibition....looks like I can be the ammo pimp


Lets do it.


Im your Huckleberry what ya need?...9s...5.56. 7.62?
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by DonnieS » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:13 am

Pale Rider wrote:
DonnieS wrote:
Pale Rider wrote:Kennedy's got rich running illegal booze during Prohibition....looks like I can be the ammo pimp


Lets do it.


Im your Huckleberry what ya need?...9s...5.56. 7.62?


I'm thinking 7.62 and 9s, let me check the customer base.
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