12u 00/01 Winter Watchlist by Louie UPDATED

[uncle]

First of all... Lady magic might of loss 4 games but who counts friendlies .. And the losses they have we're against some good teams don't forget that... Hype and Storm finishing 5th at L.V. , Grapettes 2nd at the Brenda Marsh Tournament.. And Grapettes-Ervin their team is starting to come around and compete... OBS Monarchs is a very good 01 Team and Clovis Rockets are a pretty solid team. So I don't think they are way to off. Still got time....but got a tuff draw this weekend. Hope goes well

[linedrivelouie]

I was looking forward to posting some rankings prior to Fresno Force however I think I am done with rankings and HB.

When I started the rankings my goal was to give everyone something with a little bit of thought behind it and not just a ranking based on last weekends tournament results. I was hoping people could have some positive discussions about these great youth athletes and teams we all love to watch. Cricket proved in the last 2 months that the majority of people who post on this forum only do so to trash talk orgs, teams, players, coaches etc... when he/she posted his/her topic about positive things about coaches and in 2 months could only get 1 post. Unfortunately by posting rankings it just fuels the fire for the idiots on this site who jump up and down with excitement every time they have a chance to slap a coach, a team or an org.

Every time I get on this topic it makes me want to puke. The lack of thought that goes behind the idiotic statements just amazes me. The latest one is jumping up and down excited that Magic had a hard weekend in a friendly last week. Really??? Your life sucks that bad you need to hope a bunch of 12 yr olds have a tough weekend so you can pound your chest behind your moniker and say "I TOLD YOU SO" Are you the adult or child. I can honestly say I don't know anyone on Magic however I can't imagine having that much hate for an org, coach or a bunch of 12 year olds that I boast and am proud when they struggle.

For those of you who sit back and slam the very people who provide our daughters a place to play whether it be an org or coach. Try telling them thank you this week instead of talking shit behind their back you might enjoy the game a little more. If that doesn't work I think you should get off your ass and start the best org on the planet with the best coaches to ever grace softball (Yourself) and fix all the problems in youth softball. For the few who go as far to talk about how terrible this team is or that team is you should be ashamed of yourself these are 11-13 yr old girls learning the game and doing the best they can at a sport they love. Get A Life!!!

Good Luck this year

[linedrivelouie]

Sorry My Wife Just Reminded Me One Of The Girls On Magic Played With My Daughter 2 Years Ago... Wouldn't Want To Be Accused Of Being A Liar On HB

[girlshaveballs]

I was looking forward to posting some rankings prior to Fresno Force however I think I am done with rankings and HB.

When I started the rankings my goal was to give everyone something with a little bit of thought behind it and not just a ranking based on last weekends tournament results. I was hoping people could have some positive discussions about these great youth athletes and teams we all love to watch. Cricket proved in the last 2 months that the majority of people who post on this forum only do so to trash talk orgs, teams, players, coaches etc... when he/she posted his/her topic about positive things about coaches and in 2 months could only get 1 post. Unfortunately by posting rankings it just fuels the fire for the idiots on this site who jump up and down with excitement every time they have a chance to slap a coach, a team or an org.

Every time I get on this topic it makes me want to puke. The lack of thought that goes behind the idiotic statements just amazes me. The latest one is jumping up and down excited that Magic had a hard weekend in a friendly last week. Really??? Your life sucks that bad you need to hope a bunch of 12 yr olds have a tough weekend so you can pound your chest behind your moniker and say "I TOLD YOU SO" Are you the adult or child. I can honestly say I don't know anyone on Magic however I can't imagine having that much hate for an org, coach or a bunch of 12 year olds that I boast and am proud when they struggle.

For those of you who sit back and slam the very people who provide our daughters a place to play whether it be an org or coach. Try telling them thank you this week instead of talking shit behind their back you might enjoy the game a little more. If that doesn't work I think you should get off your ass and start the best org on the planet with the best coaches to ever grace softball (Yourself) and fix all the problems in youth softball. For the few who go as far to talk about how terrible this team is or that team is you should be ashamed of yourself these are 11-13 yr old girls learning the game and doing the best they can at a sport they love. Get A Life!!!

Good Luck this year

AMEN.. LET 'EM PLAY AND SIT BACK AND WATCH

[noncrazynorcal]

I was looking forward to posting some rankings prior to Fresno Force however I think I am done with rankings and HB.

When I started the rankings my goal was to give everyone something with a little bit of thought behind it and not just a ranking based on last weekends tournament results. I was hoping people could have some positive discussions about these great youth athletes and teams we all love to watch. Cricket proved in the last 2 months that the majority of people who post on this forum only do so to trash talk orgs, teams, players, coaches etc... when he/she posted his/her topic about positive things about coaches and in 2 months could only get 1 post. Unfortunately by posting rankings it just fuels the fire for the idiots on this site who jump up and down with excitement every time they have a chance to slap a coach, a team or an org.

Every time I get on this topic it makes me want to puke. The lack of thought that goes behind the idiotic statements just amazes me. The latest one is jumping up and down excited that Magic had a hard weekend in a friendly last week. Really??? Your life sucks that bad you need to hope a bunch of 12 yr olds have a tough weekend so you can pound your chest behind your moniker and say "I TOLD YOU SO" Are you the adult or child. I can honestly say I don't know anyone on Magic however I can't imagine having that much hate for an org, coach or a bunch of 12 year olds that I boast and am proud when they struggle.

For those of you who sit back and slam the very people who provide our daughters a place to play whether it be an org or coach. Try telling them thank you this week instead of talking shit behind their back you might enjoy the game a little more. If that doesn't work I think you should get off your ass and start the best org on the planet with the best coaches to ever grace softball (Yourself) and fix all the problems in youth softball. For the few who go as far to talk about how terrible this team is or that team is you should be ashamed of yourself these are 11-13 yr old girls learning the game and doing the best they can at a sport they love. Get A Life!!!

Good Luck this year

Sorry My Wife Just Reminded Me One Of The Girls On Magic Played With My Daughter 2 Years Ago... Wouldn't Want To Be Accused Of Being A Liar On HB

So you're sharing and analyzing your HB posts with your wife, but you say the other posters here are the ones who need to get a life?

Read the posts. The people posting here are talking about organizations, coaches, and parents, not specifically about any girls. If you're going to rank teams, though, then you're going to be saying things that can be taken the wrong way no matter what you say.

Only a part of the story has unfolded, so any team can come together and play much better in June than they're showing right now. But when you look at how certain teams were broken up before, it is only natural that some people who lost out at the time would feel vindicated by seeing that certain people found out the grass wasn't necessarily greener.

[blue1956]

I was looking forward to posting some rankings prior to Fresno Force however I think I am done with rankings and HB.

When I started the rankings my goal was to give everyone something with a little bit of thought behind it and not just a ranking based on last weekends tournament results. I was hoping people could have some positive discussions about these great youth athletes and teams we all love to watch. Cricket proved in the last 2 months that the majority of people who post on this forum only do so to trash talk orgs, teams, players, coaches etc... when he/she posted his/her topic about positive things about coaches and in 2 months could only get 1 post. Unfortunately by posting rankings it just fuels the fire for the idiots on this site who jump up and down with excitement every time they have a chance to slap a coach, a team or an org.

Every time I get on this topic it makes me want to puke. The lack of thought that goes behind the idiotic statements just amazes me. The latest one is jumping up and down excited that Magic had a hard weekend in a friendly last week. Really??? Your life sucks that bad you need to hope a bunch of 12 yr olds have a tough weekend so you can pound your chest behind your moniker and say "I TOLD YOU SO" Are you the adult or child. I can honestly say I don't know anyone on Magic however I can't imagine having that much hate for an org, coach or a bunch of 12 year olds that I boast and am proud when they struggle.

For those of you who sit back and slam the very people who provide our daughters a place to play whether it be an org or coach. Try telling them thank you this week instead of talking shit behind their back you might enjoy the game a little more. If that doesn't work I think you should get off your ass and start the best org on the planet with the best coaches to ever grace softball (Yourself) and fix all the problems in youth softball. For the few who go as far to talk about how terrible this team is or that team is you should be ashamed of yourself these are 11-13 yr old girls learning the game and doing the best they can at a sport they love. Get A Life!!!

Good Luck this year

theres No crying in softball!!! Lol

[linedrivelouie]

Sorry My Wife Just Reminded Me One Of The Girls On Magic Played With My Daughter 2 Years Ago... Wouldn't Want To Be Accused Of Being A Liar On HB

So you're sharing and analyzing your HB posts with your wife, but you say the other posters here are the ones who need to get a life?

Read the posts. The people posting here are talking about organizations, coaches, and parents, not specifically about any girls. If you're going to rank teams, though, then you're going to be saying things that can be taken the wrong way no matter what you say.

Only a part of the story has unfolded, so any team can come together and play much better in June than they're showing right now. But when you look at how certain teams were broken up before, it is only natural that some people who lost out at the time would feel vindicated by seeing that certain people found out the grass wasn't necessarily greener.

No I am just open with those who know me, about who I am on here.

Exactly my point why is a grown adult looking to be vindicated on a public forum where nobody knows your name by putting down those who volunteer their time to support our kids and make this possible. Maybe some have forgotten this is not about you it's for your kids. Like you said if you rank teams at some point you will say something that can be taken bad about players. I just choose not to take part in it. Slam me all you want take your shots it doesn't matter to me but obviously you feel some guilt in this as well or you would not have started by attacking a post about a comment my wife had.

[JimineyCricket]

Louie, I understand your frustration (and share it to some degree), but you have to admit that NO ONE has made any negative comments about the players. I think you also have to admitt the LM situation is unique - the way that team was created had a significant and widespread impact on the Sacramento 12u scene, impacting what most would agree would have been 3 of the top 5 teams coming into the season. Instead of Heat, Breeze and Rapids all continuing to improve as teams in their second year of 12s together, we have the LM, Breeze and Rapids - same players, different mix, all struggling. It doesn't help matters that the LM organization was so disingenuous in the way it advertised the formation of its 12u team, on the Bucket and elsewhere, and how their supporters made no bones about their belief that they would be the dominant force in the age bracket. They still may wind up being that force, but for now, it's natural for those whose daughters were negatively impacted by their actions to take some satisfaction in the organization's struggles.

[blue1956]

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Maybe this can help the coaching in nor cal!!

[Bob Uecker]

Or maybe just go to the topic on "Positive Comments on 12u Coaches" and read what people have to say and contact one of them.......

Oh, damn!!! There's nothing there. Ok, maybe you're right. They should attend the ASA Coaches Clinic.