King High School Defeat

[hilaryC]

Hilary, the issue is in HS softball I see the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. An entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy sh*t we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.

WoooWWW! Mr. Wonderful this isn't reality TV. This is about abuse on teen girls period.
Your a slow learner Mr. Wonderful, And i'm sorry you got stuck on a job you didn't like and that your chased cars and clothes because of advertisement for God's sake man take charge of yourself! LOL!

[Sid Barrett]

Hilary,
we can all appreciate your efforts to bring attention to a coach, who by many accounts is harsh with his players and employs some questionable substitution patterns. But lets be adult about this. When you use statements like, "This is about the abuse of teen girls period" because a coach plays favorites, or replaces one kid who hit a home run with an underclassman, it cheapens the struggles and issues facing truly abused teens. Spend a day or two shadowing a PSSA or Child Welfare Counselor or volunteer at a Children's Safe Harbor emergency room and you might change what your definition of what "abuse" is.

I'm not trying to personally attack you so please don't take this the wrong way. Is this coach an a$$hat ...probably. Does it stink for the players...more than likely. But in the end, its just high school softball and it will end in a few weeks.

[hilaryC]

Mr wonderful I salute you as a prime example of a person who is living in reality

Hillary, I believe you will never get "it" as long as you live your deluded life. Perhaps I can help you understand. 1) With 51 sports teams @ my DD's HS & 2/3 of the student body participating in said athletics she will NEVER have as you put it "community support" everybody is too busy with their own lives, agendas. work, problems, yada yada yada, it's sad because I've been fortunate enough to receive your so called "community support" & was attempting to point that out. Everyone who's even "laced em up" appreciates competing in front of a crowd 2) I don't know the team, didn't see the semi final home run & have no idea the qualifications of the coach but that doesn't matter because he/she are the coach for better or worse.

You sound like a combination of a neophyte & a shrill, but that's just my jaded opinion based upon your posts. The coach probably has a reason for doing what they do, it's their team & like it or not HS athletics is what it is, where sometimes talent has less to do with a player playing than say ...seniority or past performance or whatever. It even happens on the college level, but thats another topic

Life isn't fair & even if the AD laughs in your face I'm sure we'll get a different story

OKkkkk...Let me break it down for you..I was thinking maybe i need to use sign language and maybe a powerpoint lol!!! 1. if not getting it means i live an eluded life and your life is the opposite then I'm glad i'm on other side. and 2. again you managed to make this about you. so far you and Mr. Wonderful have had a pretty sad lives...to the point that you have accepted the mistreatment of young teen girls as "that's the way it is for better or worse". I feel sorry for you. It's obvious you have never taken a stand about anything that matters.

"The coach probably has her reasons"? abusing HS teen/student? you are defending that? No it's not their team. It belongs to MLK and MLK is a public school hence it belongs to us "the tax paying public" they were hired by MLK it is MLKs team and we the tax payers fund MLK so FYI it's our program, our school. Their job description does not include the following attributes, belittle, intimidate, harrass, bully you know all the great attributes we like seeing in a person of leadership.

No life isn't fair I experienced a life threatening illness but hell if i accepted it i fought for my life and i fight for others to be aware so they don't go through what i did.

It's not "life isn't fair" so everyone get in line and abuse me, belittle me intimate me, harrass me, bully me for the sake of the team you know "TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM"! how disgusting.

[You don't say]

The novelty of your posting has already worn thin and has lost any entertainment value.

[hilaryC]

Hilary,
we can all appreciate your efforts to bring attention to a coach, who by many accounts is harsh with his players and employs some questionable substitution patterns. But lets be adult about this. When you use statements like, "This is about the abuse of teen girls period" because a coach plays favorites, or replaces one kid who hit a home run with an underclassman, it cheapens the struggles and issues facing truly abused teens. Spend a day or two shadowing a PSSA or Child Welfare Counselor or volunteer at a Children's Safe Harbor emergency room and you might change what your definition of what "abuse" is.

I'm not trying to personally attack you so please don't take this the wrong way. Is this coach an a$$hat ...probably. Does it stink for the players...more than likely. But in the end, its just high school softball and it will end in a few weeks.

With all due respect and i appreciate your comment. I worked for the OC social services dept I understand what you are saying and i also know from experience that just because there are no obvious bruises does not mean the teen girl hasn't been abused. I saw teen girls that were abused by adults, by their boyfriends and many believed that it was a sign that someone cared for them and even loved them and it starts w/verbal abuse, demeaning and de-valuing the girl until many accept that is the way and then grow up and move on into abusive relationships...and we wonder as a society how can this be? when we see an adult woman accepting an abusive relationship.

[Skarp]

If you don't like your kid's high school coaches, the simplest, most effective solution is to kill them. Same goes for later on if they get a job working for a mean boss.

Some misguided souls believe that adversity breeds character, but we all know that's a bunch of malarkey. It causes permanent damage (as the OP so eloquently observed). The only question is whether you love your children enough to do something about it.

[anonlooker]

redrum! ReDrUm! REDRUM! REDRUM!!

[anonlooker]

If you don't like your kid's high school coaches, the simplest, most effective solution is to kill them. Same goes for later on if they get a job working for a mean boss.

Some misguided souls believe that adversity breeds character, but we all know that's a bunch of malarkey. It causes permanent damage (as the OP so eloquently observed). The only question is whether you love your children enough to do something about it.

Hi Skarp! Not surprised to find you here, this thread has some serious potential, don't ya think?.

[exD1dad]

OK I’ll start with a SoCal PSA http://teenlineonline.org/ If you or any teen has a problem or just wants to talk with another teen who understands, then this is the right place for you! My oldest worked both the phones & texts dealing with “cutters”, suicides, sexual abuse, verbal abuse, bullying etc. serious stuff & I’m both happy & proud she has found her calling

Of course she did 100 hours of classroom study & role playing to get to the point of being qualified to be a peer to peer “listener” which I’m sure can’t compare to “working for OC social services” like the great HillaryC. Who of course must be an expert?

I do find your reference to “this community” totally laughable. If this woman is so bad why has she continued to be allowed to coach? I just find it difficult to believe that 1 coach could be the problem for all the transfers, & woe is me sadness on a D 1 team that won CIF 10 years ago, with over 3000 students to pull from because I think some kids left for playing time or how about 1 or more of their parents lost their job? The way the economy has been the last 5 years people move on & change their lives, especially in Riverside county which was 1 of the worst foreclosure areas & loss of homeowner equity in the state & nation.

[softball_parent]

My daughter a former college player is now 26 and already has had some jerk bosses. Her response is that some of the HS coaches as she had 4 different ones and some of the travel ball coaches prepared her for the real adult world. Is it right? Probably not. However in the adult world not everyone gets a trophy and will think you are wonderful like your parents. My 26 year old is self sufficient and financially independent making close to $70,000 a year. So to all the jerk coaches, thanks for helping my daughter prepare for the adult world. Just know that in college it may not be any better.