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by Fly Out » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:25 pm

Let me clarify I am not with Breeze 00 nor have I ever been. I know both C.M. and S.A. through the softball world. If you have not figured out S.A. was a coach at this point I would actually read what these people have said before I comment or accuse someone of fueling the fire. Since your statement leads me to believe you read half of my post and none of the others I went ahead and highlighted the important part of mine.
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Fly Out wrote: S.A is a friend and handled the situation of being tossed to the side with class and held back comments in many of our private conversations out of respect after leaving the Breeze.


S.A is? It sounds like it fueled a lot of the fire with the parents on the Breeze 00. Bleacher bug and Fly out you should of been talking to the Head coach.
If you thought the team was run so poorly- why did you stay?


Sounds to me like Bleacher and Slapper have done plenty of talking to the coach. Sounds like they believe most of what they were told to this point was not true.
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by LadyMagic83 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:56 pm

Normally I would not respond outside of tryout posts, but there seems to be some speculation and assumptions being made by specific individuals without direct, firsthand knowledge of the Lady Magic organization and this team in particular. These are nothing more than assumptions and conjecture by those individuals for their own agendas are are NOT TRUE.

1. Yes, the coaches have daughters on the team. If they didn't, there would be no team.
2. Believe whom you wish, but all positions are available.

Mike Saulter
President, Lady Magic
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by Sftball Junkie » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:21 pm

LadyMagic83 wrote:Normally I would not respond outside of tryout posts, but there seems to be some speculation and assumptions being made by specific individuals without direct, firsthand knowledge of the Lady Magic organization and this team in particular. These are nothing more than assumptions and conjecture by those individuals for their own agendas are are NOT TRUE.

1. Yes, the coaches have daughters on the team. If they didn't, there would be no team.
2. Believe whom you wish, but all positions are available.

Mike Saulter
President, Lady Magic

Well I feel all warm and fuzzy now. Mike says it will be A OK so it must be!!!! You would have been better keeping quiet. Just makes you look as bad as the coach being hammered. I noticed u didn't dispute the fact this deal has been in place for a year now. Makes me think most of what Bleacher and Slapper said was true. JMO
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by Ovr Weight N Bald » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:19 pm

LadyMagic83 wrote: 2. Believe whom you wish, but all positions are available.

This is simply NOT TRUE.. Look I am not here to bash anyone and I do not have a dog in this fight but this statement is my favorite in Travel Ball and we see it with every team every time tryouts come around. If anyone thinks these coaches left the teams they were with and did not make deals or promises to players who currently play for them you have never been involved in any type of sports before. (Hell when we were 9 and played stick ball in the streets we did what we could to make sure we had the best players on our teams)

If you don’t think an Org like Magic who always has competitive teams did not make sure these coaches felt they could both bring a solid core with you have never been involved in Travel Ball before. Why do you think Magic has a history of success?? They bring in teams that are already at the top of their age bracket and try to make them better. Congrats to Magic for doing so you have a great Org as a result...
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by guero_gordo » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:26 pm

Perhaps you can thin out that viscous rumor while you're at it. ;-)
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by CheckWriter » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:43 pm

Wow!

SO glad my DDs are playing college ball and the TB world is behind us!

Does make it a little less perplexing as to why Jim & Joe chose to go their own way with their desire to stay in the travel ball coaching world.

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by LadyMagic83 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:20 pm

For folks who claim to know so much about LM, y'all know very little.

OWNB

Obviously you do not know me at all or the values this organization has held for over 30 years. If you did, you would know my favorite saying (which I tell all parents at tryouts) is that the word winning is not in our mission statement. Your right, I have an agenda. It's right here.

As the president of LM, I do have firsthand knowledge of all the coaches on this team and have complete confidence in their commitment to this organization. Only time will prove me right or wrong, no one else.

As for a core group, they are the coaches daughters, so yes we do. Otherwise we have made NO commitments to any other players. Do I think there will be players from Heat and Breeze come to try-out? I would expect so, just as you all seem to do. Players will follow coaches they believe in. That does not change the fact that until they show up, they aren't on the roster. Even showing up doesn't guarantee a spot, whether you believe me or not! And just to be clear, all POSITIONS are open. Yes, 3 roster spots are taken, and obviously those players play a position. Doesn't mean they will be the only ones to play that position.

As for recruiting teams at the top of their divisions, you have that backwards. We do not recruit teams at all! I turned down over 15 requests from coaches looking to move their teams in the last 12 months. We don't need to recruit teams, they come to us. Again, believe me or not, up to you.

Checkwriter :

You know the answer to this one, so I am surprised you mention it..

When a team is formed within the LM organization, that team is given a sunset date matching the end of the summer season following the head coaches daughters HS graduation. For Joe and Jim, that was Aug 15th, 2011. They were GRACIOUS ENOUGH, at the boards request, to stay one additional fall and summer season to prevent a gap between their teams sunset and Earl's teams moving to 18G. That occurred this past fall. Once Earl's daughter graduates in 2014, that team will be done at the end of that summer season. Likewise once Sue, Rick and Derek's daughters graduate in 2015, they are done. The same will be true with this 12u team in 2018. If no new teams are added by then, bye bye Lady Magic.

(FYI - Both Jim and Joe remain a part of the Magic family and continue to advise and mentor our players and coaches. We wish them only the most success in any new ventures.)

If any of you would like any further explanation of how we add teams, the criteria required or ANYTHING else about LM, feel free to respond to me directly and I would be happy to tell you! But as for this thread, this will be my last comment. Enjoy your daughters, enjoy the holidays and enjoy the opportunities provided your family which so many others do not have.

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by zerotolerance » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:38 pm

Seems like a very bad job vetting out this dynamic duo from The Breeze '00. A lot of drama, negativity and bad blood seems to have landed into LM ballpark. Should be concerning to someone in the LM org when people would say they would NEVER let their DD play for them or entrust them with their DD. DM at The Breeze should be dancing a happy dance that THAT is out of his org :D
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by Old Darter » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:51 am

zerotolerance wrote:Seems like a very bad job vetting out this dynamic duo from The Breeze '00. A lot of drama, negativity and bad blood seems to have landed into LM ballpark. Should be concerning to someone in the LM org when people would say they would NEVER let their DD play for them or entrust them with their DD. DM at The Breeze should be dancing a happy dance that THAT is out of his org :D



Or the other way around. Same could be said of DM...
Breeze Drama

and yet the Breeze continues to get players. Never even heard a hint that these two coaches have ever physically assaulted a player or parent.

Listen, known DM a long time. Despite what others say and his occasional indiscretions, he's not a bad guy, and people give him the benefit of the doubt. He's moved softball forward in this area and helped a lot of kids realize their dreams. Clearly the Breeze (parents) can't be as generous towards others trying to do the same thing..

Oh, and hey Mr. Zero, nice first post.....under that username. And if they were soooooo bad, why are all these parents soooo upset to lose them? Hummmm....
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by Bleacher bug » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:01 am

Old Darter wrote: And if they were soooooo bad, why are all these parents soooo upset to lose them? Hummmm....


If you were able to read from my post that I am upset to lose this coach you need to take off your Magic Colored glasses for a few minutes and read it again. Far from it....
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