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2011/12 is getting started soon....who are THE 12/11u teams?

by dailyjoy » Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:34 am

Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?
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by insoftballnut » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:01 am

dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?



I'm being honest here, c p bulldogs 99 got no business in an NSA 14u B world series. I would of thought at minimum an ''A'' nsa world series in 14's or even 12's,,but i guess will give them the benefit of doubt saying maybe they don't care for the win and are there for scrimmage type games. If their playing to win an ''NSA B world series then playing at usa/asa nationals with the cream of the crop , thats embarrassing ,,by the way, they got a very easy pool play bracket in moline,,considering the 83 teams,,they lucked out.

Gators 99 got the toughest pool play with georgia fire and firecrackers 'quarles'. Good luck cynthia,, your gonna need it. probly 3rd or 4th in pool.

Raiders has a semi tough one. maybe 1st or 2nd in pool

bulldogs 2000 looks like they might get 3rd in pool.

N W ind whitesox 2000. looks like 4th in pool
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by ejnine » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:13 am

insoftballnut wrote:
dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?



I'm being honest here, c p bulldogs 99 got no business in an NSA 14u B world series. I would of thought at minimum an ''A'' nsa world series in 14's or even 12's,,but i guess will give them the benefit of doubt saying maybe they don't care for the win and are there for scrimmage type games. If their playing to win an ''NSA B world series then playing at usa/asa nationals with the cream of the crop , thats embarrassing ,,by the way, they got a very easy pool play bracket in moline,,considering the 83 teams,,they lucked out.

Gators 99 got the toughest pool play with georgia fire and firecrackers 'quarles'. Good luck cynthia,, your gonna need it. probly 3rd or 4th in pool.

Raiders has a semi tough one. maybe 1st or 2nd in pool

bulldogs 2000 looks like they might get 3rd in pool.

N W ind whitesox 2000. looks like 4th in pool


Pool play is just that. Pool play. Not that they need me to defend them, but come tourney play the Gators will be just fine at the end of the day. I don't think any of the NW Indiana teams want any of what they bring. Just my opinion, and I've been in tournaments with every one these teams this summer.
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by insoftballnut » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:04 am

ejnine wrote:
insoftballnut wrote:
dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?



I'm being honest here, c p bulldogs 99 got no business in an NSA 14u B world series. I would of thought at minimum an ''A'' nsa world series in 14's or even 12's,,but i guess will give them the benefit of doubt saying maybe they don't care for the win and are there for scrimmage type games. If their playing to win an ''NSA B world series then playing at usa/asa nationals with the cream of the crop , thats embarrassing ,,by the way, they got a very easy pool play bracket in moline,,considering the 83 teams,,they lucked out.

Gators 99 got the toughest pool play with georgia fire and firecrackers 'quarles'. Good luck cynthia,, your gonna need it. probly 3rd or 4th in pool.

Raiders has a semi tough one. maybe 1st or 2nd in pool

bulldogs 2000 looks like they might get 3rd in pool.

N W ind whitesox 2000. looks like 4th in pool


Pool play is just that. Pool play. Not that they need me to defend them, , and I've been in tournaments with every one these teams this summer.


Absolutely no doubt in my mind that gators 99 can hold their own. But why would you even bring up a stement like ''but come tourney play the Gators will be just fine at the end of the day. I don't think any of the NW Indiana teams want any of what they bring. Just my opinion''

Dont worry about the northwest indiana teams verses the gators99,, worry about the firecrackers/quarles team and a few others that will add some gator meat on that california hawaiian pizza. I don't think gators want what they bring either. Just my opinion.
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by ejnine » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:15 am

insoftballnut wrote:
ejnine wrote:
insoftballnut wrote:
dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?



I'm being honest here, c p bulldogs 99 got no business in an NSA 14u B world series. I would of thought at minimum an ''A'' nsa world series in 14's or even 12's,,but i guess will give them the benefit of doubt saying maybe they don't care for the win and are there for scrimmage type games. If their playing to win an ''NSA B world series then playing at usa/asa nationals with the cream of the crop , thats embarrassing ,,by the way, they got a very easy pool play bracket in moline,,considering the 83 teams,,they lucked out.

Gators 99 got the toughest pool play with georgia fire and firecrackers 'quarles'. Good luck cynthia,, your gonna need it. probly 3rd or 4th in pool.

Raiders has a semi tough one. maybe 1st or 2nd in pool

bulldogs 2000 looks like they might get 3rd in pool.

N W ind whitesox 2000. looks like 4th in pool


Pool play is just that. Pool play. Not that they need me to defend them, , and I've been in tournaments with every one these teams this summer.


Absolutely no doubt in my mind that gators 99 can hold their own. But why would you even bring up a stement like ''but come tourney play the Gators will be just fine at the end of the day. I don't think any of the NW Indiana teams want any of what they bring. Just my opinion''

Dont worry about the northwest indiana teams verses the gators99,, worry about the firecrackers/quarles team and a few others that will add some gator meat on that california hawaiian pizza. I don't think gators want what they bring either. Just my opinion.



You seem to have changed your tune. Up until this point all I've heard from you is how great the NWI teams are. With that in mind, we'll see how you fare vs the other Indiana teams. After all, this is usually an Indiana thread until you take it off on a tangent someplace
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by insoftballnut » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:25 pm

ejnine wrote:
insoftballnut wrote:
ejnine wrote:
insoftballnut wrote:
dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?



I'm being honest here, c p bulldogs 99 got no business in an NSA 14u B world series. I would of thought at minimum an ''A'' nsa world series in 14's or even 12's,,but i guess will give them the benefit of doubt saying maybe they don't care for the win and are there for scrimmage type games. If their playing to win an ''NSA B world series then playing at usa/asa nationals with the cream of the crop , thats embarrassing ,,by the way, they got a very easy pool play bracket in moline,,considering the 83 teams,,they lucked out.

Gators 99 got the toughest pool play with georgia fire and firecrackers 'quarles'. Good luck cynthia,, your gonna need it. probly 3rd or 4th in pool.

Raiders has a semi tough one. maybe 1st or 2nd in pool

bulldogs 2000 looks like they might get 3rd in pool.

N W ind whitesox 2000. looks like 4th in pool


Pool play is just that. Pool play. Not that they need me to defend them, , and I've been in tournaments with every one these teams this summer.


Absolutely no doubt in my mind that gators 99 can hold their own. But why would you even bring up a stement like ''but come tourney play the Gators will be just fine at the end of the day. I don't think any of the NW Indiana teams want any of what they bring. Just my opinion''

Dont worry about the northwest indiana teams verses the gators99,, worry about the firecrackers/quarles team and a few others that will add some gator meat on that california hawaiian pizza. I don't think gators want what they bring either. Just my opinion.



You seem to have changed your tune. Up until this point all I've heard from you is how great the NWI teams are. With that in mind, we'll see how you fare vs the other Indiana teams. After all, this is usually an Indiana thread until you take it off on a tangent someplace


Your offbeat here, all i did was post an opinion on how i think the pool will play out, rite away your compareing northwest indiana teams with the gators99,,now it's an Indiana thread because you don't like the facts,, anyway, who really cares on here if an Indiana team did good up at moline,, for the most part a,b or c would be jealous if d,e or f won or did good anyway , softball is cut throat anyway, nobody cares about any other team in there area at all, not to much unity here bro,,just a bunch back slapping high fivers amongst the pal's,, anyway , good luck to your team or the team you like, ' if you think i really mean that anyway' :lol:
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by Bulldogs00 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:25 pm

dailyjoy wrote:Renee

I think it is great you are going to Moline. Since the world series is in your back yard, so not as costly, it makes a lot of sense to go to Moline and give your girls the experience.

I think two teams from Michigan, Outlaws Black and MC Madness, are teams to watch along with River Valley Rage.

I am cheering for Harris or LaPorte to win it all.

This is my first experience following any type of travel ball worlds series or nationals. It is interesting to see the wide range of skill level of the teams. I have been surprised at the margin of victories. Scores such as 21-4 clearly show the two teams are not at the same level of play........ I expected, in a "world series" that most the games would be close and each game would be a battle. Naive I guess.

Another lesson I am learning from following the NSA World series is that there is a difference between teams who play B ball and A ball. Since I mostly followed LaPorte and Harris this year, two teams which probably should be A, and we played mostly A tournaments, I didn't realize the gap between 12 A and B teams was so big.

Watching Crown Point 99 not only hold their own but dominate in 14u highlights this difference. Has a 12u team ever won a 14u B world series?


Thank you Daily Joy,

I was a little nervous to post anything on here. I wasn't sure what kind of response I would get. It's nice to have some support on here. I'm just hoping that going to Moline will better prepare our girls for whats out there. You need to play better teams to help develop your players. I would have to agree that I too would like to see Laporte Lazers Black win World Series. There one of my favorite teams. Unfortunately, for us our journey ended today after winning 5 games and losing 2 in the World Series. Our girls came up short 2 runs in the last game we played. I think we had a tough bracket. Facing Harris Heat 99's early was a tough one. We fought are way through 2 wins this morning and lost the 3rd one. Anything can happen in softball. I also agree about the big difference in A and B teams. You can definitely see who should be in A World Series. We didn't have any blow outs like 21-4.

Not sure if a 12U team has ever won a 14U World Series. I think its great CP 99's chose to stay home and play in the 14U. There going to Moline too and the expense of traveling far to 2 tournaments two weeks in a row is difficult for anyone. I think they made a great choice to go to Moline and challenge their girls. Playing up in 14U will better prepare them for whats a head.

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by Amish_TB » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:45 am

Bulldogs00 wrote:I was a little nervous to post anything on here. I wasn't sure what kind of response I would get. It's nice to have some support on here. I'm just hoping that going to Moline will better prepare our girls for whats out there. You need to play better teams to help develop your players. I would have to agree that I too would like to see Laporte Lazers Black win World Series. There one of my favorite teams. Unfortunately, for us our journey ended today after winning 5 games and losing 2 in the World Series. Our girls came up short 2 runs in the last game we played. I think we had a tough bracket. Facing Harris Heat 99's early was a tough one. We fought are way through 2 wins this morning and lost the 3rd one. Anything can happen in softball. I also agree about the big difference in A and B teams. You can definitely see who should be in A World Series. We didn't have any blow outs like 21-4.

Not sure if a 12U team has ever won a 14U World Series. I think its great CP 99's chose to stay home and play in the 14U. There going to Moline too and the expense of traveling far to 2 tournaments two weeks in a row is difficult for anyone. I think they made a great choice to go to Moline and challenge their girls. Playing up in 14U will better prepare them for whats a head.

Renee


I agree too. Gotta throw some props out to CP 99's for a good showing. I think sometimes when people post some stuff they really just show they have no clue as to what it takes to develop a team and players or program. Just give them a keyboard and fingers and they prove it. I too am rooting for the Lazers (even against us...). If we have the opportunity to play them it will probably be a fun game.

Couple of other remaining Indiana teams I think are gonna be in the mix:

Fairmont Fury - On a roll. Been using two pitchers and have a solid offense.
Indiana Shock - Have three solid pitchers, well coached. Rooting for them against the LC Starz.
Indiana Reapers - I have not had a chance to watch them mutch but have been putting teams aways.

Bill - Harris Heat 99
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by IN Softball Nut » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:50 am

Well, it looks like their are 82 legitimate teams going to ASA Nationals, plus the CP Bulldogs00. After reading Softball_Freak's post, I second his/her question - How did the CP Bulldogs00 earn their bid? They played in one ASA State Tourney, in their own back yard. They are a NSA B team, no more.

Renee wrote: "We were 4th in ASA State and because there were 3 berths for Indiana and some teams decided not to go we were given the opportunity like some other teams."

So I guess that's the answer! one 4th place finish in one ASA tourney got the CP Bulldogs00 their bid. Yeah, they earned it alright. What a bunch of bologna!!!!! I can't believe ASA allowed this. A 4th place finish out of 8 teams, how impressive is that?

I have seen this team play in some NSA B tournaments and in the B world series this past week, and I am not impressed at all. Tis team is not ready for ASA Nationals and is over it's head.
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by Likeitornot » Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:07 am

I think it's pretty ballsy to post the accomplishments of one kid on a team when in reality their other pitcher carried that team this week. Heard Renee's kid has lost a lot of speed on her pitches and didn't pitch well yesterday..

They earned their bid by the manager complaining and harassing the Asa commissioner for a bid. Plain and simple. You cannot compete for a top finish at NSA b, you have no business going to Asa. But hey, let them waste their money.

Oh and Plainfield force still in it.. Hmm. Renee ever heard of a number 3 pitcher, that's what u saw from Plainfield in pool play.
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