16s FATT DADDY's ....what's going on!!

[ICMTM]

ICMTM...if you do some detective...

That's not the point...We don't have 30 polls...we currently have two.

For anyone that thinks Gametime is biased

I never said anything about GameTime's poll being biased. I did not even hint at it being biased. I pointed out it has an obvious hole in it. He can't watch all the games unless these teams are playing his own daughter's team. That means his rankings are not based entirely of him seeing games. If he's updating his pole weekly/bi-weekly/monthly even it's a pretty good indication he's ranking off bracket results then confirming his rankings when/if he sees the team.

I'm not blasting him for this. I'm just offering a suggestion for improvement. For what it's worth I agree with most of his work. I can see a bias in it though. He ranks known orgs above non known orgs. He may have his own team ranked too low. In a scienced based pole though the win they got out in Reno is a 2.8! I would have him ahead of the KG Hitters. In Reno there were better teams.

I'm done with it. Continue to do what you're doing. I didn't mean to say you're wrong, but here's a tool to make it better. Sorry for the interruption.

[Tenshun]

It's all good ICMTM. I think we actually agree on almost every point, including my opinion that Gametime tends to rank better known teams higher than lesser known teams. I on the other hand tend to favor the lesser known teams, the underdog, if you will. On the other hand, Gametime thinks I tend to pump up unknown, unproven teams. It's all just opinions.

It looks like you have your answer and already know which team Gametime is from. Outside of this board plenty of people know who I am as well. I just don't like to publicize it here, as I'm not the official spokesperson for our team.

Tell you what, since I know where to find you, maybe I'll swing by and chat. You bring the BBQ and I'll bring the nachos.

[mr.flamboyant]

and I'll supply the drinks

[GameTime23]

T-Shun…. You are the undisputed Rankings for Nor-Cal, hands down. You are the solider at the fields, watching the games, knowing the players and orgs. Plus you do it with CLASS!!!

You are the reason why I even got into doing rankings. I didn’t agree with your ranking 2011 (Foothill, storm and Sharks) Love. You thought I was off on sorecerer98, ddogs98 and Grapes Vasquez, but we were always within your point system up or down….

I just like to put my own spin on things and add some insight to each team if I can without being disrespectful to the players, coaches and orgs. That’s what I’ve learned most of all from T-Shun....Be RESPECTFUL!!!!

Nor-Cal is asking for it T-Shun…..

And for the rec I didn't miss the bus on Stars 97….org had them U16's and don't remember them from last year...Kryptonite97 was great usaaa team prior recent ASA play.

[ICMTM]

Tell you what, since I know where to find you, maybe I'll swing by and chat. You bring the BBQ and I'll bring the nachos.

and I'll supply the drinks

Now that's what I'm sayin'!

[lowoxygen]

And for the rec I didn't miss the bus on Stars 97….org had them U16's and don't remember them from last year...Kryptonite97 was great usaaa team prior recent ASA play.

I'm one of those who mostly reads, too lazy to type, but just to clarify... I don't think Kryptonite '97 has played u trip since early spring 2011, you're probably thinking of the '98 team. The '97s played 16U over Memorial Day and made Gold, knocked out by Sting who was also playing up..

[mr.flamboyant]

Me personally, I think the only credible rankings are T-Shun and Gametime. They are loaded with knowledge when it comes to Nor Cal Softball. I would have to say their unbiased (daddy ball free rankings). Although I did like Brackey's Nor Cal Ranking system with the chart attachment, that one was good stuff! Maybe T-shun and Gametime could collaborate on something like that

[fansoftball]

Thank you NOTME!!!

Smash98 played RR.......They must of rolled teams up in that tourny....

Not exactly, a couple of games were closer than they wanted, i'm sure. Not sure if it is good for them to play in tournaments like that. In some games they looked good but in others they looked like they were playing at half throttle. Fun team to watch however they are playing.

Thanks GT

Just saying though it seems like the 14 division is A LOT Closer than people want to admit. IMO what make a couple of these elite teams special is they execute at such a level that is tough. It isn't firepower.

If we're doing a ranking however I'd prefer to classify a team as either an elite team (meaning they can win out any schedule combination on a Sunday), a very good team (meaning they can beat an elite team, but would have a hard time beating two in the same day), and good teams (the rest of the teams that would challenge the above teams but usually come up short).

I don't think treating these rankings like the BCS is an accurate reflection of what's going on.

ICMTM is onto something with this idea. use classifications instead of #s.

Elite "can win out any schedule on Sunday"
Gold "meaning they can beat an elite team, but would have a hard time beating two in the same day"
Silver "the rest of the teams that would challenge the above teams but usually come up short"
Bronze "everyone else"

[GameTime23]

lowoxygen...thanks for your input ,but what other ASA have they played other than recently 2012 Summer ASA?

Can't miss the uniforms......hehhhahhahh


Tournaments

5 30 9/11/2010 Qualifier 2011 State/World Series Qualifier FPGirls14UOpen 2 3 0 12 24 23 4.8 4.6 0.2
11 0 9/25/2010 Qualifier Aussie Sparks Challenge #1 FPGirls14UOpen 2 3 0 6 19 23 3.8 4.6 -0.8
5 30 10/30/2010 Qualifier Monster Bash Classic NIT FPGirls14UOpen 2 2 0 8 18 16 4.5 4 0.5
3 45 11/13/2010 Qualifier 2011 State/World Series Qualifier FPGirls14UOpen 3 1 0 15 32 11 8 2.75 5.25
1 100 2/12/2011 State Level 2 Fall/Winter State Championships FPGirls14UOpen 5 0 0 8 30 14 6 2.8 3.2
2 165 3/12/2011 NIT Luck of the Irish NIT FPGirls14&UA 4 2 0 11 34 29 5.666 4.833 0.833
4 175 7/2/2011 State CALIFORNIA STATE CHAMPIONSHP FPGirls14&UA 5 3 0 14 46 24 5.75 3 2.75

[GameTime23]

He can't watch all the games unless these teams are playing his own daughter's team. That means his rankings are not based entirely of him seeing games. If he's updating his pole weekly/bi-weekly/monthly even it's a pretty good indication he's ranking off bracket results then confirming his rankings when/if he sees the team.

I can see a bias in it though. He ranks known orgs above non known orgs. He may have his own team ranked too low. In a scienced based pole though the win they got out in Reno is a 2.8! I would have him ahead of the KG Hitters. In Reno there were better teams.


ICMTM....You never advised if you were the loud pitcher dad from last years Heat, but now on Comets?

Officer SHAQ-FunPolice...Can you and Joey Greco confirm?