Drop 3rd strike...

[Skarp]

I'm not worried about cultivating anything here.. because there is place where you get told how it really is... and its on message boards. The warm fluffy "I understand what you are saying coach, I saw it a little differently now lets play ball" placating of your absurdity .. well you get that between the chalk lines. Between the chalk lines I'll feed you all the lines.. I'll talk into my score card so I dont offend your delicate sensibilities or appear to show you up, lest I have to dump you.. but here, you get whats what.

Gotta respect that. In fact, gotta respect a guy who can get as good as he gives. Wade says what he thinks, and doesn't snivel (or hold a grudge) when he gets jumped for it. You want an ideal forum participant...that's a pretty good description.

Doesn't make him any less of a jackass sometimes, but hey...who am I to talk about that.

[wadeintothem]

And learn how to spell Jerk! Your the kind of umpire that just HAS to

To answer YOUR question...

YOU'RE not going to believe this..

Yes, you can run on an uncaught third strike with first base occupied at time of pitch if there are two outs.

Good luck on the diamond!

[K'SDAD]

You can run on D3K anytime first is occupied, but you will still be out unless there were two outs at TOP.

[Skarp]

You can run on D3K anytime first is occupied, but you will still be out unless there were two outs at TOP.

You can streak around the infield singing "Hello Dolly" on a D3K too.

[MTR]

You can run on D3K anytime first is occupied, but you will still be out unless there were two outs at TOP.

You can streak around the infield singing "Hello Dolly" on a D3K too.

Aahh, so you've seen [enter name HEAR (that's for you, ace) ] on the field. Like on this board, exposed in more ways than one.

[MTR]

Gosh Mikey,

Only one person every called me that and he is now defrocked and doing time. Hmmmmm....

I'm only treating you as you treat everyone on this board....you never help anybody. You ridicule others with lesser knowledge of the subject of your particular expertise.

Actually, like others on here, I go out of my way to answer rule and code questions, yet I am ridiculed because you don't like the answers. Cannot help that, I didn't write the whole rule book. I have posted case plays on this board in effort to bring little-known rulings to light only to be harassed for setting myself up. Well, I don't need to set myself up for anything. I certainly don't need the approval of anyone who frequents this board, especially those who chose to ignore discussions and instead attack the person. But there's no one like that on this board, right Acehole?

I think the problem is that you, Sam, get defensive because you think umpires don't understand coaches and what they go through. You also act as if there is a impenetrable wall between the two. What you fail to get is that many of us HAVE been on your side of the wall. I have played, coached and sponsored. I have coordinated fund-raisers from candy sales to beef & beers to a ski trip to raise funds for softball teams. I must admit, it is not a fun job. Sam, have you ever been on our side of the wall?

I have umpired multiple regionals, NQ, NT, NC and WC games and if you don't think those are humbling experiences, I guess you haven't been there. But that doesn't mean a thing, because many umpires have a similar resume.

In my opinion you are the worst kind of umpire...the one who chooses to belittle you publicly because you don't understand the rules....or you actually might take a literal view of the rules.

Obviously, you do not have a clue as to what type of umpire I am. If someone feels ridiculed or belittled by me on the field or on this board, it is because they placed themselves in that position, not me.

Well, whatever, Mike. I'm only trying to help you to help others...everybody on this board knows how you are and what you are.

Well, Sam, there you go again. Assuming authority claimed, not bestowed. Your last name isn't Haig, is it? Do you have an uncle name Alexander?

Just out of curiosity, if you don't care for me and "know how I am", why is it you stick your nose into every little discussion in which I'm involved? Maybe the last name is Kravitz???

[Sam]

Wade,

You must have missed my posts about our game depending on umpires and how I respect what you and people like you do for our girls. Oh well.

I don't argue calls when I know I'm not right or don't at least think I'm right. I like having the game called by the book...which is why I "snivel" about IPs and OBS.

My posts have been about teaching coaches on this board, not during games. In games coaches are advocates for our teams....you are the judge. Judges don't teach during trials...but many of them lecture outside the courtroom. I am asking you guys to share your knowledge on the greatest medium to do so....here on this board and other boards.

I learned how to manage my teams games by asking questions on the other board and getting schooled, very nicely, by guys like Tom Iceblue, SteveM, Hugo Tafurst, Andy, bluezebra, et al. I don't yell and scream and I've never cursed at an umpire (that he/she or anybody else could hear). I don't allow my parents to address umpires when they think we have had a bad call.

What you and Mike do on this board is cultivate a hatred for umpires because the coaches that frequent this board end up thinking you are the rule and not the exception....when the opposite is actually the reality.

Like I said before, I'm trying to help you guys.

Sam, you were schooled mostly by mike and you know it. He probably taught you more than all of those guys put together...but now you dis him on the props? Thats lame. Some of us have been around though Sam, so we know.

This new umpire banner waver schtick of yours is a little bit gaggy bro, good for a slight chuckle. But at least a few are falling for it.

Thanks for helping the umpire community

I'm not worried about cultivating anything here.. because there is place where you get told how it really is... and its on message boards. The warm fluffy "I understand what you are saying coach, I saw it a little differently now lets play ball", speaking perfectly, placating your absurdity .. well you get that between the chalk lines. Between the chalk lines I'll feed you all the lines.. I'll talk into my score card so I dont offend your delicate sensibilities or appear to show you up, lest I have to dump you.. but here, you get whats what.

But I will answer the questions here, I've never dissed the parent who posted the OP.. only the lazy idiot coach the OP posted about. You rode in on your white horse to protect the idiot. Thats on you.

You are a mid level TB coach Sam, The reality is your opinion on umpiring means that much. The opinion of a midlevel TB coach. Can you guess what 99 out of 100 umpires in a room would think about what you think about our profession?

It is a non issue. Wear the blue.. your DD has got to be close to 18 now. Let her go, and come on over to this side, you might have worthwhile opinion. Come "help" umpires.

Mike has never schooled a soul, Wade. And if you want to be a POS on this board and help cause your lousy field manner with coaches...so be it...thats on you.

I was a mid-level Gold coach...but you work for a lot of guys like me. I taught my players the game...players that Haning, Rico, Anderson, Tyson would never coach...but players that are playing at D1 schools this year. You can belittle that if you wish...I really don't care.

You guys don't see a problem with your approach. I tried to give you some viable feedback. KMA.

[wadeintothem]

Mike has never schooled a soul, Wade. And if you want to be a POS on this board and help cause your lousy field manner with coaches...so be it...thats on you.

I was a mid-level Gold coach...but you work for a lot of guys like me. I taught my players the game...players that Haning, Rico, Anderson, Tyson would never coach...but players that are playing at D1 schools this year. You can belittle that if you wish...I really don't care.

You guys don't see a problem with your approach. I tried to give you some viable feedback. KMA.

Hey now, I never belittled you by saying youare a mid level TB coach. You are in fact a mid level TB Coach. I WAS a recball daddy ball coach. It is what it is.

[skahtboi]

Its starting to sound a lot like eteamz over here!

[Ace]

And learn how to spell Jerk! Your the kind of umpire that just HAS to

To answer YOUR question...

YOU'RE not going to believe this..

Yes, you can run on an uncaught third strike with first base occupied at time of pitch if there are two outs.

Good luck on the diamond!

It wasnt MY question, I know the rule. But like most everyone else here, I teach them to run no matter what. If the defence throws to first and not second, then we get a stolen base out of it. But if the Gestapo is umping my game I will probably get ejected for CHEATING!
And, you probably studied my post for mistakes the same way you study every second of the game for opprtunities to call time and have a conference so EVERYONE knows who's in charge. Big WHOOP! Power trip.