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TNL Coach Released - Mistrial Declared

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by Blind Squirrel » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:59 pm

jed23 wrote:John(Blind Squirrel),
I too, actually agree with everything you said. The problem is your getting all your information from the misguided posters and their opinions on this thread.

...

Jerry Delamater


First, I admire/respect your willingness to not only state your views but also provide your name when you know perfectly well you are on an extremely unpopular side. Second, the only relevant (to me) info I got from here was vague info about prior accusations. I made it a point of saying those prior accusations would only make me more careful but regardless, as an adult male, no underage kid (male or female) comes into my house when there is no one else around. If they come alone to pick something up, they stay on the front porch and I hand it to them.

As I stated, I was in a hurry. I made the following mistake (among others):

"A 37 year old man interested in and allowing a child to come alone and hang out with him: Creepy and beyond stupidy."

Should have written:
A 37 year old man interested in and/OR allowing a child to come alone and hang out with him: Creepy and/OR beyond stupidy.

Why not let it go? Lets see: Because it deals with an issue that parents care deeply about. Because the people in the "family" yammer on about innocence and family but have provided little info that I'm aware of that suggests strong action is being taken to ensure that such a situation, whatever version you believe, will never happen again. Because, though I don't, some folks apparently are interested in playing in this org. Why, I don't honestly know. I have seen TNL players a few times over the years but until this situation, have never had them come up in conversation.

What this org needs to do is obvious if it truly cares about it's "family" members and its potential for success on a national level in the years ahead. Or it could just create a recording that says "The girl lied in court and Chris was found innocent." This would be played every time a potential TNL player's parent asks about the situation. Which assumes that the parent ignored the way the this org appears, from the outside, to deal with this important issue. Otherwise the parent wouldn't even bother asking. They would be looking elsewhere. Though they are close enough, it is quite safe to say my kid will never try out for their team.

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by SSdad » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:03 pm

whatttfunn? wrote:Wow - I have read this thread off and on - it seems alot of you just want TNL out of the way? And we have to admit, that would free up a load of talent.

But, the Coach who spoke up seems genuinely concerned about the girls who have remained in the organization. Who else should his priority be? From the statements he has made, he seems to have taken a very active role in evaluating the facts.

And since they have a board in place and coaches with no children on the team, it stands to sense the organization has had numerous meetings and votes regarding policies and procedures going forward. They are probably NOW a cleaner house with less abuse of policies/parent politics going on (as opposed to training).

Why not just let the matter drop and play ball? The girls seem game . . .



do you smell that???-----yep.....posts:1
(odds of knowing someone in the org. or playing on the team??? Anyone??)
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by anonlooker » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:19 pm

GDad wrote: The parents knew about the girls visiting the coach and were OK with it - in my case - I dropped off and picked up my daughter from his house on many occasions before she got her drivers license...


Hi Jerry,
Please read the above.
Now please read what you wrote below.

jed23 wrote: Fact: Chris Facione DOES NOT invite 16/17 year old girls over to his house to hang out and watch movies. The young women the TNL parent was referring to are former TNL players that have either graduated college or are in college and are home on break. They are all over the age of 20 and are friends of his. Oh, by the way, they are also part of our summer


While it's nice to learn you're concerned about the opportunities for the TNL girls to play, it appears you aren't even aware of what is happening in your own organization.

That, or you lied.

btw, it's not the girls I'm concerned about. It's the parents, and even more so the staff at TNL, who long ago chose to turn a blind eye to a potentially dangerous situation. You can't blame Facione alone for using bad judgment - you all exercised bad judgment when it came to the welfare of your players.

But everything is okay now, is it?

Great to hear, as CF is no doubt anxious to get back to business as usual. :shock:
Good luck with that.
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by jed23 » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:41 pm

Anonlooker,
I did read it and would be happy to discuss it with you. Feel free to call me anytime, I'm sure you can find my number. You could even go down to store and use the pay phone so I wouldn't see your number on caller id.

Jerry
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by Ace » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:40 pm

jed23 wrote:Anonlooker,
I did read it and would be happy to discuss it with you. Feel free to call me anytime, I'm sure you can find my number. You could even go down to store and use the pay phone so I wouldn't see your number on caller id.

Jerry

Wth does that mean?
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by NumeroUno » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:20 pm

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by Skarp » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:22 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
Ace wrote:
jed23 wrote:Anonlooker,
I did read it and would be happy to discuss it with you. Feel free to call me anytime, I'm sure you can find my number. You could even go down to store and use the pay phone so I wouldn't see your number on caller id.

Jerry

What does that mean?


Does German help?
Ich las es und würde glücklich sein, es mit Ihnen zu besprechen. Fühlen Sie sich frei, mich zu jeder Zeit anzurufen, I' m sure können Sie meine Zahl finden. Sie konnten sogar unten gehen, das Lohntelefon so zu speichern und zu benutzen ich wouldn' t sehen Ihre Zahl auf Anruferidentifikation

No? How about French?
Je l'ai lu et serais heureux de le discuter avec vous. Sentez-vous libre pour m'appeler n'importe quand, I' ; m sure vous pouvez trouver mon nombre. Vous pourriez même descendre pour stocker et utiliser le téléphone de salaire ainsi je wouldn' ; t voient votre nombre sur l'identification de visiteur

Maybe good old Spanish?
Lo leí y me placería discutirlo con usted. Sienta libre de llamarme en cualquier momento, I' m sure usted puede encontrar mi número. Usted podría incluso ir abajo a almacenar y a utilizar el teléfono de paga tan yo wouldn' t considera su número en la identificación de llamador

Any better? :P :P

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by Cookie » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:30 pm

I will translate it:
Please do not respond to this post it is officially dead. The trial was a mistrial and you can talk about it once he goes back to court and justice is served. Out
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by Ace » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:27 pm

Spazsdad wrote:
Ace wrote:
jed23 wrote:Anonlooker,
I did read it and would be happy to discuss it with you. Feel free to call me anytime, I'm sure you can find my number. You could even go down to store and use the pay phone so I wouldn't see your number on caller id.

Jerry

What does that mean?


Does German help?
Ich las es und würde glücklich sein, es mit Ihnen zu besprechen. Fühlen Sie sich frei, mich zu jeder Zeit anzurufen, I' m sure können Sie meine Zahl finden. Sie konnten sogar unten gehen, das Lohntelefon so zu speichern und zu benutzen ich wouldn' t sehen Ihre Zahl auf Anruferidentifikation

No? How about French?
Je l'ai lu et serais heureux de le discuter avec vous. Sentez-vous libre pour m'appeler n'importe quand, I' ; m sure vous pouvez trouver mon nombre. Vous pourriez même descendre pour stocker et utiliser le téléphone de salaire ainsi je wouldn' ; t voient votre nombre sur l'identification de visiteur

Maybe good old Spanish?
Lo leí y me placería discutirlo con usted. Sienta libre de llamarme en cualquier momento, I' m sure usted puede encontrar mi número. Usted podría incluso ir abajo a almacenar y a utilizar el teléfono de paga tan yo wouldn' t considera su número en la identificación de llamador

Any better? :P :P

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