Nor - Cal 12U Spring Summer Rankings

[bleacherpreacher]

I think you have done a pretty good job on the ranking linedrivelouie. The only thing I had a small issue with is the #12 ranking that you gave extreme. There pitcher is back Ive heard that they have picked up another girl. The catcher they lost I think they can handle. They have aanother good catcher that also plays 2nd base. She is a beast behind the plate. They may of lost to stone but I don't think they should be 12. I feel team extreme will almost always make it deep on Sunday. I know last weekend they won a df 14u tourney. I know some of you are going to say wow its just a df tourney but this team has talent and deserves to be at least in the top 5. They made it to the championship game with garcia not to long ago. This team wiill and can compete against grapes norwood or kap. My kid is not on extreme but I know some who are and those girls are beasts. This team seems to get a negative feedback all the way from tc. Its a good team and any 12u team playing them should not take them lightly. Other than that I think you took your time and gave us a good ranking

Oh I heard rr miller did good at the grapes friendly last weekend as so did mizuno garcia did well at asa 14u tourney they were in.

[linedrivelouie]

Preacher I get what your saying on Extreme. Only reason I dropped them to the basement is I really think they are an unknown right now. If you pull the 2b to catch, who plays 2b? When the #2 Pitcher wasn't on the mound she had a starting spot, who goes there? You have also removed 2 good bats and 2 smart base runners from the line up, what are their replacements like? Glad to here the #1 is back. If they picked up a pitcher does anyone know anything about her. We also don't know much about the #3 they never used. The number one can't pitch 8 games a weekend (or at least her parents an coaches shouldn't let her, but that's for another topic.) I just felt they are to much of an unknown at this point. I hope they prove me wrong and jump to the top 5 in no time. I agree they are a talented bunch tho.

[noncrazynorcal]

I think you have done a pretty good job on the ranking linedrivelouie. The only thing I had a small issue with is the #12 ranking that you gave extreme. There pitcher is back Ive heard that they have picked up another girl. The catcher they lost I think they can handle. They have aanother good catcher that also plays 2nd base. She is a beast behind the plate. They may of lost to stone but I don't think they should be 12. I feel team extreme will almost always make it deep on Sunday. I know last weekend they won a df 14u tourney. I know some of you are going to say wow its just a df tourney but this team has talent and deserves to be at least in the top 5. They made it to the championship game with garcia not to long ago. This team wiill and can compete against grapes norwood or kap. My kid is not on extreme but I know some who are and those girls are beasts. This team seems to get a negative feedback all the way from tc. Its a good team and any 12u team playing them should not take them lightly. Other than that I think you took your time and gave us a good ranking

Oh I heard rr miller did good at the grapes friendly last weekend as so did mizuno garcia did well at asa 14u tourney they were in.

The DF website says that Team Xtreme 98 was in their tourney, but in another post here, someone said that Team Xtreme 98 was playing the ASA tourney in Lincoln.

Did Xtreme 99 really play last weekend?

[SKBC1234]

I think you have done a pretty good job on the ranking linedrivelouie. The only thing I had a small issue with is the #12 ranking that you gave extreme. There pitcher is back Ive heard that they have picked up another girl. The catcher they lost I think they can handle. They have aanother good catcher that also plays 2nd base. She is a beast behind the plate. They may of lost to stone but I don't think they should be 12. I feel team extreme will almost always make it deep on Sunday. I know last weekend they won a df 14u tourney. I know some of you are going to say wow its just a df tourney but this team has talent and deserves to be at least in the top 5. They made it to the championship game with garcia not to long ago. This team wiill and can compete against grapes norwood or kap. My kid is not on extreme but I know some who are and those girls are beasts. This team seems to get a negative feedback all the way from tc. Its a good team and any 12u team playing them should not take them lightly. Other than that I think you took your time and gave us a good ranking

Oh I heard rr miller did good at the grapes friendly last weekend as so did mizuno garcia did well at asa 14u tourney they were in.

The DF website says that Team Xtreme 98 was in their tourney, but in another post here, someone said that Team Xtreme 98 was playing the ASA tourney in Lincoln.

Did Xtreme 99 really play last weekend?

Team Xtreme 98 played ASA

Team Xtreme 99 played 14U at DF

[Thebattery]

Fresno Force will sure show who is improving, who is not. Norwood gave up 0 runs this last weekend at BRATS as did Xtreme at ASA. Only glitch with Xtreme is they tied Roseville Heat Cota 00 with a score of 0-0 against a 2001 pitcher of the Heat 00 against Xtreme #1 pitcher. I think North Valley Rapids, they have one of the top players in Nor Cal in their #1 and lead off hitter. She is for real. Beat Heat 00 (2-1) and beat Heat LaGabed 99 (2-0). I assume they lost to Xtreme in Championship Game. Xtreme is still legit top ten, if not top 5. Certainly still RR Gold, Garcia and Norwood at the top. Great season so far, glad weather is finally letting us see these great teams play!

[linedrivelouie]

Fresno Force will sure show who is improving, who is not. Norwood gave up 0 runs this last weekend at BRATS as did Xtreme at ASA. Only glitch with Xtreme is they tied Roseville Heat Cota 00 with a score of 0-0 against a 2001 pitcher of the Heat 00 against Xtreme #1 pitcher. I think North Valley Rapids, they have one of the top players in Nor Cal in their #1 and lead off hitter. She is for real. Beat Heat 00 (2-1) and beat Heat LaGabed 99 (2-0). I assume they lost to Xtreme in Championship Game. Xtreme is still legit top ten, if not top 5. Certainly still RR Gold, Garcia and Norwood at the top. Great season so far, glad weather is finally letting us see these great teams play!

I agree Fresno this weekend will tell us a lot. Honestly not trying to take anything away from Heat 00 (I truly think they are a pretty good 00 team) unfortunately I just think this shows exactly what I was saying. Extreme is not the powerhouse they were a few months ago. When you lose 2 of the top bats in the line up and 2 of the better fielders on the team like they did that is a big blow. I have seen North Valley Rapids play a couple time and I agree they are a pretty good team. Looks like Heat Cota has a pretty favorable pool play schedule for Saturday should be able to make Gold pretty easy, will be nice to see how they stack up on Sunday.

[linedrivelouie]

Wow what a great weekend of softball in Fresno!!! Gotta give it to the young Firecrackers team. Those girls were a lot of fun to watch. Still looks like So Cal has the edge over Norcal for Talent. Congrats to Norwood's girls on making the Semi's

I moved a few around after this last weekend. I still think it's all about the body of work but that body can change a little every weekend.

1.) RR Gold - Miller: Beat Strike Force 99 the tourney runner up on SAT then lost to Sun Devils which is a solid So Cal team. Keeping them in the 1 spot still however I think its almost a coin flip between this team and Garcia.

2.)Mizuno - Garcia: Lost this last weekend to the 00 Fire Crackers team. Yet again so did everyone else.

3.) Grapettes - Norwood: Had a solid weekend 2 – 1 on SAT then got bumped by the tourney runner up in the Semi’s Great weekend for these guys.

4.) Grapettes - Kappmeyer: Didn’t get to learn much here. They played a pretty easy pool on SAT. Sunday was kinda like a reg tourney for them at home Crossfire and a loss to Norwood.

5.) Team Exteme: Giving credit where credit is due. I moved extreme up for one reason only They beat SJ Sting head to head. Maybe I did move them to far down this list??? I still have some doubts. This team had a pretty easy pool play schedule beating 2 teams that did not get out of their first game in the Silver Bracket. They did beat KG Tracy as well on Sunday Which I think played OK this weekend, then lost to the eventual tournament runner up.

6.) SJ Sting: This team did what they should have based on the previous rankings 2 wins against teams they should have beat and a tie to USA Elite who I think is a pretty good 12u team on SAT. Only fault was the loss to Extreme. Really thought they would beat them

7.) CC Dirtdogs - Mancha: Even though they ended up in the Silver Bracket if you look at the pools this was probably one of the toughest pools to play. I have put them ahead of Heat 99 based on the way they played over all in their pool. They out played Heat 99 against each team the competed head to head on. Heat 99 squeaked a win out over them but I still think they are a better overall team. Runner up in Silver

8.) Roseville Heat - LaGabed: Played good enough to make the Gold this weekend but not well enough to get past their first game on Sunday. I said before this team has done a lot more with less but in the end large tourneys that will bite them

9.) Mizuno – Stone: Not a lot to say here this team beat the few they should have and lost to the ones they should have. Only reason they slipped a spot is I feel Heat 99 is a better team at this point just based on their over all head to head against each other.

10.) MSC Tigers: I don’t think anyone looked at this pool and thought it would end up any different then it did. #1 after Sat which they should have been beating a few of the weaker teams in the tourney and a descent Heat 00 team. Same old same old on Sunday Loss to Nowrood like they were playing in Stockton again. Really would like to see this team play more ASA to get a good judge

11.) USA Elite: Another team who did what they should have done Beat the teams they should and lost to a strong So Cal team in game 1 on Sunday. They could have gone either 10 or 11 in my book.

12.) KG Hitters - Tracy: I have said you will probably not see me put a 00 team in the top 10 unless they can really prove their body of work is strong. This weekend was one of those reason's. This is a Very good 00 team who should have swept what was an OK Pool. They did end up the 1 seed which says something however they tied one game, squeaked out a win over the team who ended up the 2 seed. All good but keep in mind they were only a few runs away from being the 3 seed.

[neighborsherry]

I enjoyed watching a lot of ball this weekend in fresno and agree that most northern california teams did what we might expect. I was disapointed in the play of both of our nor cal front runners this weekend. I expected a better finish for at least one of the teams. The so cal pitching was able to hold down our big bats on RR and with the exception of the Garcia pitcher who is a fire plug the mizuno girls looked tired. Maybe a nap before memorial day would be good for both teams.

[Journey17]

I dont understand how sometimes a team beats a team once and the beaten teams gets bumped down 2 or 3 spots. Then sometimes a team beats a team and nothing in the rankings changes. Sometimes a team makes the silver bracket and they only hear how they must suck to not be in the gold bracket. Then some teams get in silver and it's because they had a tough pool. Sorry. If you were good enough to be in the gold bracket you would have been there. Didn't Heat beat Dirt Dogs? Who are we to say they didn't deserve to win?? Dirt Dogs should be below Heat if Heat beat them. And the silver bracket still means you didn't play well enough to get to gold.

[99NorCal]

The continued question of body of work versus current snapshot. If the current snapshot was used, CC Dirt Dogs would now be below Modesto Crusaders, who won their game in the Silver championship. But winning a Silver and not already being in the top ranked won't get you ranked against teams that were already ranked and played in the Gold. But is it enough to drop CC Dirt Dogs out of the top rankings?

Here's my take.

1. RR Gold
2. Mizuno Garcia
3. Team Xtreme
4. Grapettes Norwood
5. San Jose Sting
6. Grapettes Kappmeyer
7. Rosevile Heat LaGabed
8. Mizuno Stone
9. CC Dirt Dogs
10. MSC Tigers
11. KG Hitters Tracy
12. USA Elite

Not much difference on the fine work from Line Drive Louie. Just a difference in a few. Just would have liked to have seen one of our area's teams take the title. Congrats to the Firecrackers.