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by onlooker » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:04 pm

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by notme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:09 pm

lookingIN wrote:
Boogieman wrote:WOW is correct. It would be a good move to play on one of the best 14U teams. The talent on that team will only make her better. It would be nice to have the best 12u CF and C on that team. Only time will tell!!!

I thought the whole deal was how much playing time at her position could she get( catcher ). It wont be long before he ( dad ) starts losing his cool and bad mouthing other kids on the team. If he hasnt already started.

I have to agree with the opinions on here about 12U teams playing up in local tournaments. lookingIN, you need to worry about taking your team to SoCal and playing the best 12U teams down there or even out of town period, instead of trashing dads on 14U teams in this area. We all know who you are so get off it and take care of your business not someone else's. Speaking of losing your cool, we've seen you in your dugout, need I say more???
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by MommysPitcher » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:29 pm

I go on this page for updated team ranking but all I find is talking about kids and bad mouthing teams. Can't we get back to the subject TEAM RANKING. Maybe we should go with 99norcal last ranking which seems to be accurate because 1st to 3rd is taking way to long. Or maybe 1st to 3rd is waiting for his/her team to have a better show before doing another ranking. Starting to see some holes in 1st to 3rd ranking system
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by Journey17 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:48 pm

How many games/tourneys are needed to get a ranking? Some teams have played in a couple tourneys since March 3rd! Why was it stated that the rankings would be updated last weekend and then nothing...
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by 99NorCal » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:48 pm

Agreed that there have been enough games played since the last ranking. It doesn't make sense to wait too much longer. Weekly would be appropriate, even if it's to state that there are no changes in the rankings.

1st to 3rd has an opportunity here to establish credibility with a ranking, but it needs to be soon. If it's not, we'll see competing rankings being posted as new threads. Would be nice to keep all the comments in one.

That said, I stand by my ranking from a few days ago as being more up to date and representative of the teams in our area. I'd still like some comments on the teams that weren't in my proposed current top 10 but who are looking in...MSC Tigers? Breeze '00, USA Elite?

I'll fight the urge to create a new thread with 12U rankings for now until we see the update.
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by WhoRyou? » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:57 pm

I finding it interesting, if not funny, that after just a few tournaments into the spring season (tournaments in which not all teams were participants), that some teams feel they are so dominate that that have to play up. I say stay in 12u's and let results speak for how good that team is, not predictions. Funny what hype will do to a team. JMO.

Now, how about those rankings? I do have a couple of questions: 1). If a team must play to be ranked and 2). A team must play against a ranked team to move up...should a team that is playing up be ranked for that week in 12u's? If a team like R/R Miller decides to play a majority of their tournaments in 14's, why should they be ranked in 12u's and not 14u's?
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by 99NorCal » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:12 pm

WhoRyou? wrote:Now, how about those rankings? I do have a couple of questions: 1). If a team must play to be ranked and 2). A team must play against a ranked team to move up...should a team that is playing up be ranked for that week in 12u's? If a team like R/R Miller decides to play a majority of their tournaments in 14's, why should they be ranked in 12u's and not 14u's?


The age old question. Is it a ranking of the top 12U teams in the area or is it a ranking of the top teams that play in the 12U level?

Certainly a team needs to play against a ranked team in order to move up. We won't see teams on the list who are winning their tourneys (and congrats to them) but aren't doing it against the consensus top picks.

Once a team is established in the ranking, if they go and play in 14U, 16U or 18 Gold, they don't move up based on those results, win or lose. But they also don't lose their established standing in the top 10.

JMHO. Flame on.
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by WhoRyou? » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:25 pm

99NorCal-thanks for the clarification!
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by notme » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:32 pm

I think they should drop a notch in the standings if they play up since they are not giving the rest of the teams in their age bracket a chance to win against them and move up in the standings. This would also keep more teams in their age division. JMO
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by Journey17 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:59 pm

I agree with everything you have posted 99norcal. You should start a new topic and post your ranking. You seem spot on and pretty diplomatic. I also agree, if you play up you neither go up or down based on your results. It's comparing apples to oranges. The wins and losses against ranked teams are what we should be basing the rankings on.
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