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by bruinfans » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:20 am

RudeDog wrote:
FENWAYS wrote:Since you asked it was a varsity pitcher and she is a Firecracker


First off, I did not ask.

Second, you either have a child involved in all of this or you are just talking cr@p like the rest of the bunch

Third, This entire thread appears to be some sort of sour grapes type of bs.
Starts off with an accusation and a "One or Two week" speculation, then accuse the coach of reducing it to one week because of the calendar, then throwing a kid under the bus because she "supposedly" reported a wrong that she witnessed and now your clASSless act of giving details of the "alledged" person who reported it.

My guess is that you are just another hater who has NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what really happened and you are just chiming in with your worthless opion (Just like I did) :D


But this is just my opinion


FENWAYS wrote:want to talk more crap.


SURE!!!
Your mouth is a lot like my avatar, every time the hole opens up the same load of crap comes out
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Rude Dog-I agree that calling out a player is not cool. But the one thing that strikes me as naive is that anyone could think that it would stay "internal". This involved a group of teenage softball players & we all know the softball world is a small one.....that story spread faster than the Colorado wildfires.
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by AlwaysImprove » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:52 am

Safebyahare wrote:Hazing and initiation???? My definition:
Initiation, is a welcoming to the team, doesn't last long, usually degrading for a day.
Hazing, continues and last a long time.
Example: Initiation make new comers, wear stupid outfit with degrading sign for a day at school.
Example: Hazing, treat new comers like crap, make them suffer for a while.
Opinion: Initiation is ok, and can be a good thing.,,,,Hazing is abuse, and the player and parents need to know or understand the difference.
Problem is: too many thin skinned whining parents who intervene too soon, and do not allow things to play out a little.
To those parents I say hold your powder! Wait a little bit. Let the ball get deep.
BUT,,,,,,, no to many will miss their shot for growth, or swing at the change up.
I remain on the outside of the fence,,,,if she wants my help she will ask, and when she shares I always listen, and smile with her.
OH! it's called the game of life.

PS I really do not like whiners. Especially the parent kind.

It is not about whiners. It is about losers that actually think that a team that has initiation/hazing has in place in a team that actually is going to compete at all.

Seniors got this far in life and yet are so confused that they think they can go and abuse lower classman, then turn around act like things should be normal rest of the season? The Seniors relationship with the others has to be so fouled that it will define the season. What is the point of that?

Seniors do this for one reason. To keep competitive freshman from competing for their positions. It is super low-end tactic deployed by low-end people and pretty much guarantees a low-end team.

Plus initiation can end super bad. My friend was born with a thick skull. People would tire themselves punching him in the head. Big dope Senior tries to initiate him, next thing you know, the Senior takes about 6 beatdowns in the first 6 weeks of school. Now you have a semi-popular senior who has to go to a freshman and request special permission to be at parties, basketball games, etc. The problem with playing the a***ole game, is that you always run into some bigger a***ole.
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by bruinfans » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:25 am

Spazsdad wrote:
AlwaysImprove wrote:It is not about whiners. It is about losers that actually think that a team that has initiation/hazing has in place in a team that actually is going to compete at all.

Seniors got this far in life and yet are so confused that they think they can go and abuse lower classman, then turn around act like things should be normal rest of the season? The Seniors relationship with the others has to be so fouled that it will define the season. What is the point of that?

Seniors do this for one reason. To keep competitive freshman from competing for their positions. It is super low-end tactic deployed by low-end people and pretty much guarantees a low-end team.

Plus initiation can end super bad. My friend was born with a thick skull. People would tire themselves punching him in the head. Big dope Senior tries to initiate him, next thing you know, the Senior takes about 6 beatdowns in the first 6 weeks of school. Now you have a semi-popular senior who has to go to a freshman and request special permission to be at parties, basketball games, etc. The problem with playing the a***ole game, is that you always run into some bigger a***ole.

This has got to win an award for most over dramatic post on the bucket.
The word "hazing" in this situation has no business being used. This wasn't hazing just some teenage girls goofing on each other on a weekend getaway. No harm, no foul.


I thought the "hazing" term was a little strong to describe this situation, since it is now used to describe much worse physical/mental abuse being perpetrated than what occurred. Doesn't seem to fit this scenario. Pudding, anyone?
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by Sftbll4ever » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:01 am

IF this is a true hazing incident, then there should be more ramifications applied. The school has an obligation to look into this and more than a one week suspension should be imposed.

Wasn't it just last year a team (boys sport) had a hazing incident and kids were kicked off the team, not just suspended for a week.

My thing is, I don't agree with hazing. If it was just a mater of having fun, that is a different story.
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by Trophy Hunter » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:07 am

They could always say they are just getting the kids ready for college... :roll:

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by Safebyahare » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:47 am

First in regards to rudedog's avitar, I should have looked closer, your doing lil turtle impersonation. :lol: :lol:
Maybe I am wrong. I do not see the harm in initiation. It's HS ball.
I also believe hazing is wrong.
Now for me I will defend my student athlete when truly required.
However I paid a lot of money to that surgeon to remove the silver spoon we put up her butt as a child.
Life is tough, people are mean. I want my daughter to have a tough side. She is going to need it.
At the same time, I work on her being honest, sincere,humble, and true, and not to become one of those people that have to stab you to get up the ladder of success. or one who abuses their authority, or seniority.
I do not defend hazing.
Initiation,,,,, can it really be a bad thing.
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by softballmom66 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:22 pm

“Hazing” refers to any activity expected of someone joining a group (or to maintain full status in a group) that humiliates, degrades or risks emotional and/or physical harm, regardless of the person's willingness to participate.....stophazing.org

This is going on at my friends school right now....Initiation of newbies is fun, lighthearted, and meant to bond the team in the end....but Hazing...is when personal degrading/sexually obscene drawings, and racist comments are put on t-shirts to have the kids where to school. Where the teachers are alarmed and make a stand. Parents have every right to stand up for their children and not wait for it to play out. Hazing is wrong and when done needs to be called out. How the perpetrator has become the Victim in this situation is WRONG...and....beats the Heck out of me!!!!
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