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Foothill Round Table Tournament Rained Out

by RudeDog » Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:10 pm

My point is, they did change the pairing last year
WHY?

it's a NON-CIF tournament
Does that mean you just make up rules / seedings?

and yes, the Tournament host, can try to accommodate the other coaches and teams, when possible
Shouldn't you discuss these "accomodations" with ALL the teams involved?

Foothill did communication with other A.D's or coaches about the pairings from the schools in the tournament
Two weeks after the changes were made, Why not communicate with all the teams involved before making changes?

none of the coaches have issues with it
WRONG!! but how would you know?
I just help run the tournament


It seems you still have issues
I do, I would just like some simple questions answered

since your not a coach or A.D, of a team in our tournament, it really doesn't matter what you think or want
So only the coaches and AD matter? You don't really give a crap about the fans or any questions they might have?

your very good at expressing yours over nothing
WOW! I thought the integrity of the Foothill Tourney was a lot more than "nothing"!


I'm really sorry to hear that you can not or will not answer what I felt were legitimate questions.

I will post them one more time so that maybe someone with knowledge from the Foothill Roundtable Tourney might be able to answer them

1. Why were the seedings changed this year without speaking with all the teams that were involved in the changes?

2. Why were the seedings changed in last years tourney when none of the semi finalists were from the same league?

3. Why don't the rules state that the TD can adjust the seedings to accommodate teams that play in the same league not having to face each other in the semi finals?
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by Clean_up » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:42 pm

heretostay wrote:softball1222 you are wrong and sinking quick. Last year when they changed the seeding people were not happy either. For you to say it is about the kids makes me laugh. You are the last person to say that, you should say it's about your kid. You go out to talk to colleges at your firecracker games and all you do is try to sell ur kid, does UCLA come to mind :roll:
what foothill did was wrong and I hope no one signs up for the tourney next year

you are better off just being quiet


LMAO..
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by RudeDog » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:25 pm

I'm not really interested in talking about MB and if he is a daddyballer or not.

I would just like to see some answers to my questions:

1. Why were the seedings changed this year without speaking with all the teams that were involved in the changes?

2. Why were the seedings changed in last years tourney when none of the semi finalists were from the same league?

3. Why don't the rules state that the TD can adjust the seedings to accommodate teams that play in the same league not having to face each other in the semi finals?
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by Sftbll4ever » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:37 am

Gee, to think I was out drinking beer and watching the Laker game last night instead of getting all of this in. I need to make sure my phone is always charged!!!

Oh, and by the way. Los Al does have another pitcher. She pitched last year as their number 2. Rob is a good coach and will make it work.
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by heretostay » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:10 am

Clean_up wrote:
heretostay wrote:softball1222 you are wrong and sinking quick. Last year when they changed the seeding people were not happy either. For you to say it is about the kids makes me laugh. You are the last person to say that, you should say it's about your kid. You go out to talk to colleges at your firecracker games and all you do is try to sell ur kid, does UCLA come to mind :roll:
what foothill did was wrong and I hope no one signs up for the tourney next year

you are better off just being quiet


LMAO..

Were you drunk last night when you made that post and then woke up to see what you had posted and deleted it, it was funny :lol:
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by Clean_up » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:02 pm

No, not drunk - just a little pissed and loving the opportunity to jump on the band-wagon and then decided to take the high road this morning and not hi-jack RudeDog's legitimate posts with what everybody already knows :lol: ... Maybe I'll get drunk tonight and post again, lol.. :roll: ;)
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by RudeDog » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:59 pm

and not hi-jack RudeDog's legitimate posts


You might as well Hi-Jack this post, I seriously doubt there will be a response to any of the questions I asked.
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by jmo » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:38 pm

RudeDog wrote:
and not hi-jack RudeDog's legitimate posts


You might as well Hi-Jack this post, I seriously doubt there will be a response to any of the questions I asked.


http://ocvarsity.freedomblogging.com/20 ... al/256556/

As posted in the Register today.
Of course I am sure there are two sides to the story.

Top-ranked Pacifica and No. 2 Los Alamitos pulled out of the Foothill Roundtable Invitational, which was rained out on Saturday.

After pool-play games were finished on March 3, Pacifica, Los Al, Marina and Mater Dei were the teams that advanced to the semifinals. According to the tournament’s rules, run differential determines the seedings and the matchups.

According to the rules, Pacifica should have been matched up with Mater Dei and Los Alamitos with Marina. Instead, Foothill coach Chris Thomas matched Pacifica against Los Alamitos and Marina against Mater Dei.

Pacifica and Los Alamitos, who are both nationally ranked, just got matched up in the second round of the Tournament of Champions on March 9 in Bullhead City, Ariz., in another bizarre bracketing decision.

Pacifica coach Mark Campbell and Rob Weil voiced their opinions and Thomas refused to change the schedule. Foothill also finished second in it’s pool and Thomas scheduled the Knights against two winless teams. Foothill pulled out of its scheduled game against Canyon at the Tournament of Champions because both teams play in the Century League.

That’s when Campbell and Weil decided to pull their teams out of the tournament because of Thomas’ unwillingness to follow the rules of his own tournament.

“There’s still time to fix this,” Campbell said. “They got rained out last weekend. All they have to do is follow their own tournament rules.”
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by Trophy Hunter » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:57 pm

This is the kind of crap that would have me looking at different tournaments for next year.

What a tool.
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by RudeDog » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:45 pm

Apparently softball1222 decided to pull all of his "comments" off this post (I'm glad I quoted him in my replies)

So now two of the top teams in the county have pulled out of the tournament? Do they both have pitching issues?
softball1222 wrote:
Los Al drop from the tournament for semi-final play, had nothing to do with bracket pairing, and Foothill had nothing to do with it. Their were other factors, and your not hearing the full story, but, if I were you, I be asking, how are all the pitcher for Los Al, if you don't have any, hard to play softball...........?


Foothill also finished second in it’s pool and Thomas scheduled the Knights against two winless teams.

Did they really think that no one would notice or say anything about this?

softball1222 wrote:
it's a NON-CIF tournament

That way you can just do whatever you want in the tourney?
By next weekend Foothill Varsity will be playing Foothill JV in the finals!

As posted in the Register today.
Top-ranked Pacifica and No. 2 Los Alamitos pulled out of the Foothill Roundtable Invitational, which was rained out on Saturday.

After pool-play games were finished on March 3, Pacifica, Los Al, Marina and Mater Dei were the teams that advanced to the semifinals. According to the tournament’s rules, run differential determines the seedings and the matchups.

According to the rules, Pacifica should have been matched up with Mater Dei and Los Alamitos with Marina. Instead, Foothill coach Chris Thomas matched Pacifica against Los Alamitos and Marina against Mater Dei.

Pacifica and Los Alamitos, who are both nationally ranked, just got matched up in the second round of the Tournament of Champions on March 9 in Bullhead City, Ariz., in another bizarre bracketing decision.

Pacifica coach Mark Campbell and Rob Weil voiced their opinions and Thomas refused to change the schedule. Foothill also finished second in it’s pool and Thomas scheduled the Knights against two winless teams. Foothill pulled out of its scheduled game against Canyon at the Tournament of Champions because both teams play in the Century League.

That’s when Campbell and Weil decided to pull their teams out of the tournament because of Thomas’ unwillingness to follow the rules of his own tournament.

“There’s still time to fix this,” Campbell said. “They got rained out last weekend. All they have to do is follow their own tournament rules.”

I can't wait to see how they spin this!
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