Foothill Round Table Tournament Rained Out

[artomatic]

Unless there is a roof that can be closed over those fields, I don't think anyone will be playing past 10am Saturday, if at all...

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[softball1222]

There are 2 reasons most high school teams enter tournaments.

1) Fun to play an event that means something.

2) Tournaments allow you to play extra games above the limit of 20.


SSCIF only allows a team to participate in 20 games and as part of those games CIF allows a max of 3 tournaments. Each tournament counts as 2 games regardless of how many games are played in that tournament.

Now, the goal of a tournament is to be the champion but in most high school tournaments once you lose 1 game you can no longer become the champion. At that point most high schools will play as many games as they are committed to. However, there are those teams that do not wish to play each other outside league and when that conflict arises they look at how many games have they already played and balance that against their desire to avoid league rivals. In many cases the desire to avoid each other is greater then the desire to play 1 more game especially when there is no longer a championship to be won. In tournaments these teams control they will alter the brackets so they can play those extra games without facing each other.

While it seems to defeat the purpose of the tournament the only event these type of teams really care about is winning the SSCIF Championship and to qualify to play in the SSCIF tournament you must finish high in your league making league play far more important then any other games.

Quite frankly, in high school ball league play is everything. All other games are simply preparation for league.

This point does not hold water for the Roundtable seeding change issue - both Marina and Los Al ARE in the championship rounds. So, IF both teams win their "especially changed just because you asked us to please change the seeding" semi-final games, will they WALK AWAY from the championship game because "We play in the same league"? Seriously.. In the pre-season Surf City tournament, CIF win-loss records, rules, etc are really not in play. This tournament is "in-season" and should NOT have formats changed at all, period. Foothill HS needs to grow a set and just say no to these pressures.

[softball1222]

New schedule will post soon..............

[RudeDog]

Los Al drop from the tournament for semi-final play, had nothing to do with bracket pairing, and Foothill had nothing to do with it. Their were other factors, and your not hearing the full story, but, if I were you, I be asking, how are all the pitcher for Los Al, if you don't have any, hard to play softball...........?

MB,
You can attempt to spin this anyway you want, Bottom line is that Foothill DID make these changes to the pairings without speaking with at least 3 of the 4 teams involved (3 of the teams did not want Foothill to change the pairings). I know for fact that at least 2 of the Head Coaches were calling and emailing the Foothill head coach and the Foothill AD from the day that these changes were posted and it took Foothill almost two weeks to reply.
In the reply from the AD it was stated that he did not think it was a good idea to change the pairings and have Pacifica and Los Al play in the semis. Apparently that was ignored. Either Foothill made these changes on their own or made them to accommodate one of the teams involved in the semis.
When making changes to the seedings wouldn't be a good idea to speak with ALL the teams involved? Why isn't it stated in the rules for the tourney that the TD can choose to seed teams however he/she wants? Los Al was one of the teams that was attempting to contact Foothill about the changes to the seedings two weeks ago and for you to say that they pulled out because of pitcher issues is absurd! Los Al pulled out of the tourney because of the way the tourney is being run, no other reason!

Let's not try to Burkhardt everyone here and let's state the facts........
Foothill made changes to the seedings without contacting or discussing these changes with at least 3 of the 4 teams involved.

[softball1222]

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[RudeDog]

Spin, Spin, Spin
I guess Los Al will be cancelling all their games until Formby is healthy?
Are you really trying to convince everyone here that Rob Weil is "bailing" out of the tourney because he lost a pitcher? I don't think YOU have all the facts and Los Al has more pitchers than just the twins.
Why were NONE of the teams involved in this pairing change asked if they even wanted you to change the seedings?

it's not this tournament policy that, we would allow teams to play each other in Semi's that are in the same league", only in the Final, Period.

Just curious where this is written into the tourney rules.

look at what happened last year

Please explain......
Last years pool winners were Foothil, Mater Dei, Los Al and Pacifica, none of these teams play in the same league and yet you still decided to switch the seedings, should have been Los Al vs Mater Dei and Foothill vs Pacifica instead Foothill played Mater Dei and you seeded Los Al vs Pacifica..........please, in your infinite wisdom explain to all of us the reason for these changes

BTW.................I'm not JB, I'm RudeDog

[softball1222]

It's High School, it's not Travel, I just help run the tournament, I don't make the rules......

[RudeDog]

It's High School, it's not Travel

So just do whatever you want if your hosting a HS tourney?

Funny thing, NO one cared last year, was my point

That was your point? I missed that!
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU CHANGED THE SEEDINGS LAST YEAR!

if you don't like it, don't play in it

I'm pretty sure that has already been arranged but if you were somebody you would already know that.

your the only one that seems to have a problem, or wants to complain

I am not complaining I would just like some clarification on why the changes were made without any imput from the schools involved in the changes.

I just help run the tournament, I don't make the rules

Oh my bad! The way you were posting in here I thought you were someone of importance (or at least that is what you lead everyone to believe).

I don't expect any of my questions to be answered but I had to ask

Bottom line is that this tourney is being run into the ground!
It used to be one to go to
Now it's one to stay away from!

[softball1222]

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[heretostay]

softball1222 you are wrong and sinking quick. Last year when they changed the seeding people were not happy either. For you to say it is about the kids makes me laugh. what foothill did was wrong and I hope no one signs up for the tourney next year