Nor - Cal 12U Spring Summer Rankings

[MommysPitcher]

I can see Stone and Heat Cotta having a rematch in the upcoming Mizuno tournament.

[SoftballSoccerDad]

Softballsoccerdad,

In your crazy one tournament logic can you explain to me how North Valley Rapids would not be listed in that 10 spot since they went 2 and 1 on Saturday just like the Heat then they smacked the Heat around and sent them home on Sunday. After that they held Team Extreme to a 3 1 game on Sunday. If you do all of your throwing games out blah blah blah wouldn't we end up with a head to head game Rapids V Heat with Heat losing??? Kinda throws the Heat bandwagon off track a little.

Oh and keep in mind that horrible AASA team you speak of that went to the Silver Champ game smacked Heat around the week before at the All American friendly. I know just a friendly but still Cota played all of his starters and was not very happy when the lost. I can tell you one thing Cota doesn't play friendlies as practice...

Keep in mind if this was a regular tournament with out a Gold Silver Stone would have had a chance to play Sunday and prove themselves and based on the A$$ Kickin they gave everyone Sunday my bet is they would have made it through most of those teams.

OMG I just defended Stone's team I may have to go to Church and confess the world might stop rotating...

I tend to agree how do you change rankings after 1 game or 1 tournament???? Not enough games played to say what a team is doing.

Maybe we don't rank the North Valley Rapids because they are not the name everyone knows and the had to drive 3 and 1/2 hours from North of Redding to play??

I don't question your logic at all. Someone should make a case for the Rapids. I felt a case needed to be made for Heat Cota following the results in a real tournament, not a friendly. At the next event, Mizuno Stone gets to prove it is worthy of a spot. Heat Cota gets to prove the first result wasn't a fluke.

[MommysPitcher]

Softballsoccerdad,

In your crazy one tournament logic can you explain to me how North Valley Rapids would not be listed in that 10 spot since they went 2 and 1 on Saturday just like the Heat then they smacked the Heat around and sent them home on Sunday. After that they held Team Extreme to a 3 1 game on Sunday. If you do all of your throwing games out blah blah blah wouldn't we end up with a head to head game Rapids V Heat with Heat losing??? Kinda throws the Heat bandwagon off track a little.

Oh and keep in mind that horrible AASA team you speak of that went to the Silver Champ game smacked Heat around the week before at the All American friendly. I know just a friendly but still Cota played all of his starters and was not very happy when the lost. I can tell you one thing Cota doesn't play friendlies as practice...

Keep in mind if this was a regular tournament with out a Gold Silver Stone would have had a chance to play Sunday and prove themselves and based on the A$$ Kickin they gave everyone Sunday my bet is they would have made it through most of those teams.

OMG I just defended Stone's team I may have to go to Church and confess the world might stop rotating...

I tend to agree how do you change rankings after 1 game or 1 tournament???? Not enough games played to say what a team is doing.

Maybe we don't rank the North Valley Rapids because they are not the name everyone knows and the had to drive 3 and 1/2 hours from North of Redding to play??

I don't question your logic at all. Someone should make a case for the Rapids. I felt a case needed to be made for Heat Cota following the results in a real tournament, not a friendly. At the next event, Mizuno Stone gets to prove it is worthy of a spot. Heat Cota gets to prove the first result wasn't a fluke.

Just heard Heat pulled out of the Mizuno tournament. Probably worried about playing Stone.

[MommysPitcher]

Stone a rec ball team? Um I have to actually dis agree if that is what you are saying. And I really don't understand you. Tell me what you mean by "daddy goggles" and when they get into high school with "false promises" what false promises??

[2muchparents]

Be careful 1st if you want your polls to be taken serious. What I assume started out as an unbiased poll has begun to turn into you being a bully! Tenshun did an excellent job with the 12's last year and I never saw him talking smack about any team. Even if you feel like they deserve it with all the request earlier to be ranked, it's time to move on and be positive.
I have no connection with any teams in your poll, I just don't like to see 11 and 12 year old girls talked about negatively, especially when you know they are giving it their all!!

[1st to 3rd]

You are absolutely right! Moment of weakness! Will get back on and stay on track!

[SoftballSoccerDad]

Just heard Heat pulled out of the Mizuno tournament. Probably worried about playing Stone.

I seriously doubdt ANYONE is scasred about playing stone. REC BALL/ Daddy GOGGLES what happens when these girls get to HIGH SCHOOL with all the false promises?

Be careful 1st if you want your polls to be taken serious. What I assume started out as an unbiased poll has begun to turn into you being a bully! Tenshun did an excellent job with the 12's last year and I never saw him talking smack about any team. Even if you feel like they deserve it with all the request earlier to be ranked, it's time to move on and be positive.
I have no connection with any teams in your poll, I just don't like to see 11 and 12 year old girls talked about negatively, especially when you know they are giving it their all!!

I took MP's post as a light-hearted joke.

[Tenshun]

It takes a lot of work to keep a poll that accurately positions the teams and not everyone will appreciate where their DD's team is ranked. Everyone has biases for or against certain teams, but you have to let the results speak for themselves.

I watch lots of games and talk to lots of people to get their feedback on the various teams. I also used to keep a tally that tracked wins vs. losses.

Expect lots of debate, but try to keep it positive. Most importantly, if you want to build credibility, your poll has to be right.

[AdmittedBias]

Looks like someone removed their post...funny how 1to3 is talking about kids again... Hmmm tsk tsk Mr. A...

[Sftball Junkie]

I seriously doubdt ANYONE is scasred about playing stone. REC BALL/ Daddy GOGGLES what happens when these girls get to HIGH SCHOOL with all the false promises?

Other then playing foe school pride did HIGH SCHOOL Ball start to mean something again? If you watch much HIGH SCHOOL Ball I would think you would agree most HIGH SCHOOL Varsity teams out there play at the level of a 12u team. Most JV teams are at the level of a 10u B team. If you are playing on a TB team now for the most part you will be steps ahead of your HIGH SCHOOL Team when you get there.

Please remember I did say most, Not All