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14U Team Rankings (Bracketologist) May 25th Pre-Memorial Day

by bracketologist » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:11 pm

14U Nor Cal Poll – May 25th Pre- Memorial Day Tournament Update

Based on the results from the MDC Tournament in So Cal both TC Smash 98 & Sorcerers – Schroll look like contenders at PGF Nationals.

Thanks to everyone who votes – especially the coaches! Like in So Cal 12U the Coaches ballots are telling me that there is a big drop off after the top 4. Interesting to see how this plays out.

Will be interesting to see if any Nor Cal or Central Cal teams decides to play in the TCS Bracky Elite in San Diego on June 2-3 a chance to play the #1 FC- Sota team and #5 Power Surge 97. http://www.triplecrownsports.com/tourny ... rnyid=4852


[b]1. Lady Magic [b]
Pts:
Grade: A
Previous: #1
PGF/ASA Qualified: Yes – PGF :mrgreen:
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Haven't seen them play since the summer but based off past performances they have my vote for #1

[b]2. TC Smash 98 - Baisdon/Drewrey [b]
Pts:
Grade: A
Previous: #3 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: Yes :mrgreen:
Website:
Tournament Wins:
1st 14U FC MDC Tournament May 2012
Guest Pollster Comments: Impressive mothers day tournament win in socal (getting some redemption against sorcerer in the semis). A matchup between them and lady magic would be awesome to watch

[b]3. Breeze 97 [b]
Pts:
Grade: B+/A (TBD)
Previous: #2 (-1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: Yes :mrgreen:
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: Very consistent team just need to find away to generate more offensive
against the top pitchers




[b]4. Sorcerers – Schroll [b]
Pts: N/A Yet
Grade: B+
Previous: #4 (0)
PGF/ASA Qualified: Yes :mrgreen:
Website:
Tournament Wins:
1st 14U Fresno Force Tournament 2012
Guest Pollster Comments: mostly 98's but they probably have the best defense in the top 10 as well as some great hitting to mix with a plus ace. 1st in Fresno and 3rd in Firecrackers is pretty impressive

[b]5. San Jose Sting - Ibarra [b]
Pts:
Grade: B
Previous: #6 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: Very good 97 team with solid coaching.

[b]6. Ca Grapettes – Vasquez [b]
Pts:
Grade: B
Previous: #7 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: This team is scrappy and can't be counted out of any game. I've seen their batters punish good pitching. On occasion they could play down to their level of comp but when they bring their A game they are tough to beat

[b]7. RR Gold 97 Rathcliff [b]
Pts:
Grade: B
Previous: #8 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: The return of their high schoolers should make them instant contenders.

[b]8. California Grapettes - St. Dennis [b]
Pts:
Grade: B
Previous: #5 (-2)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: A bit up and down but solid

[b]9. KG Hitters [b]
Pts:
Grade: C+
Previous: (#9)(0)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Can hit pretty well and their defense is solid. Their #1, 2 and 3 batters are hard to retire

[b]10. Lady Hustle- [b]
Pts:
Grade: C+
Previous: (#11) (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Strong roster returning for summer. They did very well in the fall and should get better with some key additions.

[b]11. Ca Breeze 98 [b]
Pts:
Grade: C+
Previous: #10 (-1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments:One of the better hitting and defensive teams. Coaching has them well prepared.

[b]12. R.B.I [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: One of the better teams at the Fresno Classic.

[b] 13. Central Cal Dirt Dogs [b]
Pts:
Grade: C+
Previous: #14 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Can hang with anyone. Had a tough draw in Fresno having to face the runner up right out of the shoot. But played well on Saturday

[b]14. San Jose Lady Sharks - Reeves [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #12 (-2)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: Maybe a little low

[b]15. Salinas Storm - Satow [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #13 (-2)
PGF/ASA Qualified: Yes :mrgreen:
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Lot of lefties that mix in with some absolute bangers

[b]16. AASA – Silvan [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #16 (0)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Solid team with a good pitcher and a couple of big bats

[b]17. Grapettes Acuna – [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #15 (-2)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Waiting for this team to put it all together. Their hitting is a notch above their defense but both are very solid

[b]18. Nevada Lightning [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: 18 (0)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Pollster Comments: - Good Hitting team, and has a few good pitchers. They will be as good as their coach will take them. They are the weakest links here.

[b]19. Central Coast Athletics [b]
Pts: N/A Yet
Grade: C
Previous: #23 (+4)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Up and down team with some talent

[b]20. Alameda Blaze [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments:

[b]21. AASA-Martinez[b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #19 (-2)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: – Took the ship out in reno.

[b] 22. Foothill Gold 98 [b]
Pts:
Grade: C
Previous: #17 (-5)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:

[b]23. RR Faulstitch [b]
Pts:
Grade: C
Previous: #20 (-3)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Pollster Comments:

[b]24. OBS Monarchs[b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Well run team that gets the most out of their abilities

[b]25. Tri-County Smash - Donaldson [b]
Pts:
Grade: C
Previous: #26 (+1)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Pollster Comments:

[b]26. Central Coast Comets White (Smith) [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #21 (-5)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Pollster Comments:

[b]27. San Jose Lady Sharks - Randall [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #22 (-5)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Pollster Comments: Good pitching and some solid contact hitters.

[b]28. NorCal Blast[b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Coming off a utrip tourny win against some decent teams.

[b]29. Lady Hawks [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Guest Pollster Comments: Gold appearance out in fresno. Good pitching and hitting.

[b]30. CA Crossfire [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: Above average solid team

[b]31. Kyrptonite 98 [b]
Pts:
Grade: TBD
Previous: #NR (+15)
PGF/ASA Qualified: No
Website:
Tournament Wins:
Bracky Comments: Above average hitting team

Other team receiving votes from previous poll!
Rampage 98
Central California Krush
Reno Heat Angotti
HYPE 98


The important component is the Teams grade (A, B+ & B) and not their ranking. At this point rankings and grades are projections for Summer. However, in 12u the teams identified as A in spring – were still A’s in spring and in 2007, 2008 & 2009, 2011 the championship game at nationals came down to the top 2 teams in the poll.

A’s – Have the ability to win three consecutive games against other A or B+ rated teams at a major tournament (i.e., State, Nationals, PGF etc). A’s are playing for the big prize “ASA/PGF Nationals”. To be ranked as a solid A Team, a team must have the ability to beat all of the other A Teams in tournament bracket play.

B+ Teams – Have the ability to win the big prize at ASA/PGF Nationals if a few things break their way (i.e., don’t have to beat two A teams in consecutive games). B+ teams will beat A teams in tournaments, they just lack the ability to beat A teams in back to back games! To be ranked a B+ team, a team must have the ability to beat all of the other B+ teams. Note: Because of the PGF Nationals format (100% stupid blind draw vs. ASA seeding earned via pool play) the luck of the draw makes it easy for a B+ team to reach the semi finals without playing another B+ or A team. In 2011 B+ teams won both 14U & 16U PGF in 2011. These teams usually will chase a berth and will utilize every opportunity to get to Nationals.

B Teams – Can only win ASA/PGF Nationals if they get hot and they get lucky (i.e., a great draw)! They can beat A teams in friendlies but struggle beating them in tournaments. B teams can and will eliminate B+ Teams but they would be hard press to win a tournament that requires them to beat 2-3 B+ Teams in a row! While most of these teams will be competitive at Nationals, the majority will not chase a berth. These teams usually end up at ASA Western Nationals, the USSSA or TCS World Series.
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by mr.flamboyant » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:10 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I cannot wait for the REAL season to begin!
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by lv2earat8 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:54 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I cannot wait for the REAL season to begin!



Don't be a hater, Just because you drank the Sorcerer Kool-Aid. :o
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by mr.flamboyant » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:11 am

I've never drank the Sorcerer Kool-Aid but I am a fan of one of their players..1B I believe (DD former teammate). :lol:
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by lv2earat8 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:27 am

Just hav'n some fun mr.flamboyant :D
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by getserious » Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:58 am

mr.flamboyant wrote:
bizybody wrote:
Boogieman wrote:I can't believe that all of these people voted Sorcerers the #1 14u team in NorCal. They have not beat any one!!!!

Well it's about time someone has stated that!Lot's of hype no results yet,and that has no bad intention towards the girls playing the game they love.Those poll numbers will change once the high school girls come into play.RR Ratcliff and Ladymagic will be a tough solid older group.But their is some very good 98 teams playing now.By the way RR Ratcliff run ruled Sorcerer this fall and Sorcerer is ranked higher! :o


We are very excited about this upcoming summer season when we will have our full team intact after the HS girls return! We have been fortunate to add a new coach to the team (who is awesome and the girls just love) and a couple of IMPACT players to a already solid lineup! I dont know where we will rank on a Heybucket poll but I have no doubt that we will be right there in the mix this summer on the softball diamond!


Really mr.flamboyant?? :roll: You never drank the Kool-Aid? :roll: Your just a fan? :lol: :lol: :lol: Sounds like your drinking gallons of Sorcerer Kool-Aid. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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by mr.flamboyant » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:22 am

getserious wrote:
mr.flamboyant wrote:
bizybody wrote:
Boogieman wrote:I can't believe that all of these people voted Sorcerers the #1 14u team in NorCal. They have not beat any one!!!!

Well it's about time someone has stated that!Lot's of hype no results yet,and that has no bad intention towards the girls playing the game they love.Those poll numbers will change once the high school girls come into play.RR Ratcliff and Ladymagic will be a tough solid older group.But their is some very good 98 teams playing now.By the way RR Ratcliff run ruled Sorcerer this fall and Sorcerer is ranked higher! :o


We are very excited about this upcoming summer season when we will have our full team intact after the HS girls return! We have been fortunate to add a new coach to the team (who is awesome and the girls just love) and a couple of IMPACT players to a already solid lineup! I dont know where we will rank on a Heybucket poll but I have no doubt that we will be right there in the mix this summer on the softball diamond!


Really mr.flamboyant?? :roll: You never drank the Kool-Aid? :roll: Your just a fan? :lol: :lol: :lol: Sounds like your drinking gallons of Sorcerer Kool-Aid. :lol: :lol: :lol:


:D I can see how my above comments could've been misinterpeted to lead some to believe that I was talking about the sorcerers so Im going to say this again..and follow the bouncing ball....

I have not ever drank the kool-aid on the sorcerers (positvely or negatively) and nor did I state I was just a fan of the team..I said I was a fan of one of their players..their 1B i believe as she was a former teammate of my daughter.

My above comments about being excited about our up comming summer season and all that was referring to RR Gold-Ratliff! I am excited about seeing our full team intact this summer! There is going to be some good competetion and it will be really interesting to see how it all plays out! In the words of Bart Scott..CANT WAIT! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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by onlooker » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:03 pm

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by softballfamily » Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:36 pm

NSA Tourney this past weekend

The A Division was won by Sutter Buttes Thunder after an intense game with the Comets Cardinal. Comets beat SB Thunder on Saturday. Then on Sunday the two teams met again, they tied and went into the International tie breaker rules and then they tied again, so a second tie breaker was played out. The Sutter Buttes Thunder won on Sunday after a very long game of nearly 2 1/2 hours. It was a very intense game to watch and the girls on both teams were outstanding.

Drop Zone took the B Division.
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by beentheredonethat » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:27 pm

NSA Tourney this past weekend

The A Division was won by Sutter Buttes Thunder after an intense game with the Comets Cardinal. Comets beat SB Thunder on Saturday. Then on Sunday the two teams met again, they tied and went into the International tie breaker rules and then they tied again, so a second tie breaker was played out. The Sutter Buttes Thunder won on Sunday after a very long game of nearly 2 1/2 hours. It was a very intense game to watch and the girls on both teams were outstanding.

Drop Zone took the B Division.



So much for NorCal's credibility :oops:
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