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by fastpitchdad05 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:32 pm

as the world turns wrote:
SoCalASABlue wrote:"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

Yeah, It's a San Diego thing I guess.


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by fastpitchdad05 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:35 pm

ontheblack wrote:fastpitchdad, your wife is right of course.


:D

ontheblack wrote:My rant/attack is based on what I believe should be a zero tolerance for any physical altercation either on or off the dirt.


Amen to that.
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by SDTitans » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:39 pm

Dugout Dad wrote:I don't understand spilling this incident on a public blog - no winners.


I kind of appreciate knowing it, so now I know not to have any friendlies with the dude's team.
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by AlwaysImprove » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:58 pm

Dugout Dad wrote:I don't understand spilling this incident on a public blog - no winners.

Certain lines get crossed and you are just no longer allowed to coach youth sports. As a minimum, you have to take a break. Choking the opposing coach, crossed that line.

You choke an opposing coach, you have to take a break. You have to take a step back. You need to take some time and go seek help. You put your hands around someone's throat to kill them. If that is not crossing the line, I am not sure what would be.

It would be very easy to question SCF and why they let Coach Fox back in the dugout. Coach Fox should have taken a break that day. It even seems a bit ludicrous that SCF would take a strangulation victim and have him shake hands with his attacker. But, I was not there, I did not hear the conversation prior or post the attack. SCF always seems like they are conscientious and really want to do the right thing. So when faced with this rare emotional event, they may not have handled it the best way.

So, the reason this is in a public forum now, is because lines were crossed and it is just not imaginable that you can just look the other way. Too often in youth sports things like this are glossed over, and it ends up creating more victims. Pretending it did not happen or looking the other way does not make any sense. I suspect Coach Fox knows this more than anyone.
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by heretostay » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:22 pm

Alwaysimpaired , Guys or gals like you crack me up, why don't you blow it why more out of proportion. Who do you work for TMZ or Nationals Enquirer?

Maybe he is a Serial Strangler. :lol: :lol:
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by Safebyahare » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:18 pm

Trophy Hunter you speak words of wisdom.
Coaches can yell, but to lay hands on another., on the field.no.
For SCF,PGF,ASA, take note, doing the right thing isn't easy. and it isn't always popular.
To allow this, well.
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by fastpitchdad05 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:27 pm

heretostay wrote:Alwaysimpaired , Guys or gals like you crack me up, why don't you blow it why more out of proportion. Who do you work for TMZ or Nationals Enquirer?

Maybe he is a Serial Strangler. :lol: :lol:


This is an adult subject. You should put on your big boy pants and add something valuable instead of torturing all of us with your wannabe stand-up routine.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe calling AlwaysImprove "Alwaysimpaired" and making light of one coach assaulting another in front of players and spectators is funny.
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by AlwaysImprove » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:05 pm

heretostay wrote:Alwaysimpaired , Guys or gals like you crack me up, why don't you blow it why more out of proportion. Who do you work for TMZ or Nationals Enquirer?

Maybe he is a Serial Strangler. :lol: :lol:

uh, yeah. Your right, I had it wrong the whole time. It was only a choke. Put him back into the dugout.
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by renegade » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:45 pm

This is Daniel Aguirre, President of the SD Renegades. In response to the incident at last weeks tournament between the Cruisers and SD Renegades the following has transpired. I have spoken to Mike Fox on several different occasions. Mike is extremely remorseful over what has happened. Mike has apologized to his players and their parents. Mike also wanted to apologize to the Cruiser players and families, but, didn't want to cause more problems by doing so. Instead Mike asked Andy to do it for him. I also offer an apology on behalf of the Renegade organization to the Cruiser players and families.
We all have made mistakes in the past. We all have said things that we have regretted later. Mike and Tom are no different. This incident has been handled by the Renegade Board. We are confident there will be no further incidents. Let's put this to rest once and for all, and get on to coaching the girls which is what we are here for in the first place. I would like to wish Tom Peranto nothing but the very best and much success in whatever the future holds for him.
I know there are people out there who will respond to this post with negative remarks and sarcasm. However, I will not respond to any more posts regarding this matter.
Thank you for your concern.
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by OU812 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:28 pm

And it ends there? Really? It shouldn't end until you teach the girls the life lesson that behavior of that kind is unacceptable and comes with real reprecussions. The guy didn't even sit out a game. Is that what we want our daughters to learn is that they can choke people and it's ok? I think Neil Reid and P.J. Carlisimo might disagree with you slightly.

NumeroUno--you stated "The two coaches talked and put it behind them, why bring it up again. That is all I am saying."

If this is what you want to teach your kid fine but I want mine to see how the real world is. The only person here that has made the correct decision is Tom Peronto. He apologised as publically as he could, he made his peace with Mike, and then he STEPPED DOWN voluntarily, even though he was the victim. That's what adults do. Now I'd like to see the Renegade organization or Mike act like adults and do something more than just apologize. Mike should do it himself if he is truly remorseful. I'm not arguing length, severity, etc. Just do something besides show our kids that kind of behavior is ok. His choice has to come with consequence or we all just condoned the behavior.
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