Last Chance Tournament Response

[fastpitchdad05]

Peronto gets mugged and its his fault? The TD issued a warning (actually a threat of being banned for all future tournaments) to a coach for defending himself while Fox should have been ejected from the game and the tournament.

I dont give a shit what the TD has done for softball in the past or what he does going forward, that was the wrong move and it excused the worst on field behavior of a coach in SoCal in a long time.

Fox is lucky that it was Peronto. Others would have taken Fox out, and some would have pressed charges for assault. Tom doesn't and you asswipes ridicule him because he attempts to set the record straight? Give me a break. His only mistake was trying to do that on HB where a smartass comment is a badge of honor.

The black eye is on SCF for allowing Fox back on the field for his next game and the Renegades for not issuing a public apology for the inexcusable behavior of their 18G coach. If you guys dont understand that, then maybe its time for you to step away from the game for awhile as well.

I see OTB's got himself a new avatar...nice!

In review (as I see it):

- Tom Peronto (formerly with the SD Renegades org) likely said some things during a game at the So Cal's Finest LCT that he shouldn't have to Mike Fox.

- Mike Fox, in response, did the unthinkable and physically attacked Peronto in front of the girls, coaches and spectators (some of whom may have been young children).

- The TD, for reasons unknown (and frankly I'm doubtful that they are justifiable reasons) decided to allow both coaches to continue coaching.

- Peronto, in what seems to be the last act of a desperate man (or was it the 1st act of Henry V? Sorry, I digress), comes on HB and posts his side and reveals that he worked some things out with Fox, resigned from the Cruisers, and then lambastes (and to a degree also scapegoats) the TD for his non-action and love of his lawn chair.

- Then, as OTB later so eloquently pointed out, a few of the HB geniuses came out of the woodwork and, as usual, dazzled us with their brilliant one-liners.

- Uno dropped in and made a valid point that Peronto should have just called the TD directly, but Uno also did what we all expected (as well as other posters close to the TD) and somewhat blindly defended the TD's questionable response.

- OTB then came on and did what I didn't expect (but do respect) and defended (right or wrong) Peronto, launched an attack of his own on those that attacked Peronto, and called out the TD and those that defended him (some big-time HB and Travel Ball power players).

My take on all this? (if anyone cares)

- Peronto should probably stay retired.

- The TD needs to think long and hard about how he handled things, because he probably dropped the ball big-time here and it doesn't look good at all.

- Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had.

As my wife said when she saw this thread..."Ugh...It's about the girls! And no one's stating that!"

[FENWAYS]

fastpitchdad05, shut up, quit boring us again and go do your wife's laundry

[fastpitchdad05]

fastpitchdad05, shut up, quit boring us again and go do your wife's laundry

Another genius.

Have fun watching your team go down in flames this Sunday.

Oh, and quit sniffing Uno's butt.

[SoCalASABlue]

"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

[fastpitchdad05]

"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

Yep. Now that we all know what he is capable of I wouldn't expect him to do the right thing.

He's more than welcome to surprise us.

[ontheblack]

fastpitchdad, your wife is right of course.

My rant/attack is based on what I believe should be a zero tolerance for any physical altercation either on or off the dirt. Fox got a free pass on that. Regardless of how Peronto came across in his post, he was originally lumped together with Fox as displaying poor sportsmanship on HB and I believe that is the reason he felt the need to say something.

No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away

SoCalASABlue, you are wrong about that, but think what you want. Regardless, a public apology from Fox and the Renegades org is both warranted and overdue.

[as the world turns]

"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

Yeah, It's a San Diego thing I guess.

[AlwaysImprove]

"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

Really? Once parents realize they may be his next choking target. Once they realize their kids may be their next choking target. Once they realize college coaches are going to look at them and their kids as not smart for being on a team with a head coach that chokes other people.

How about once other coaches and other teams start to realize a violent person capable of choking other humans is walking onto the field.

After all that. You think he keeps his team? I just do not see things the way that you do.

[Trophy Hunter]

"Mike Fox should resign immediately. There's no excuse for what he did and he has lost any respect that he once had."

Good luck with that. No one in that organization would ever think, much less consider it necessary, to ask him to walk away.

Really? Once parents realize they may be his next choking target. Once they realize their kids may be their next choking target. Once they realize college coaches are going to look at them and their kids as not smart for being on a team with a head coach that chokes other people.

How about once other coaches and other teams start to realize a violent person capable of choking other humans is walking onto the field.

After all that. You think he keeps his team? I just do not see things the way that you do.

What about the sanctioning bodies of the events? Now that they all know Mike Fox is incapable of controlling himself and inclined to violence, how can they allow him to participate in their events? Seems like a huge liability issue.

Beyond the legal aspects, the men who run SoCal's Finest, Surf City, PGF, ASA, and Triple Crown, are the de facto stewards of travel ball, and have an ethical responsibility to provide our daughters a safe environment. Allowing any individual who perpetrates violence at a youth sporting event to continue to coach is an egregious disservice to the sport. Failure to act decisively implicitly condones such behavior, a wholly unconscionable stance in consideration of the of trust they collectively hold in the community.

Mr. Minard
Mr. Minor
Mr. Haning
Mr. King
ASA

Gentlemen,

Your game needs your leadership. You have the opportunity before you to send a clear message that violence has no place in the game, and will not be tolerated under any circumstances.

Honor the game. Honor the young women who play it.

[Dugout Dad]

I don't understand spilling this incident on a public blog - no winners.