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14U poll

Top 14u Norcal teams, 2012.

Lady Magic
20
16%
AASA
4
3%
Sorcerers
34
26%
Monarchs
2
2%
Breeze
12
9%
Lady Hustle
7
5%
Storm
3
2%
RR Gold
7
5%
Grapettes
6
5%
TC Smash
21
16%
Force
1
1%
Other
12
9%
 
Total votes : 129

by lvtwft » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:24 am

So which 14u NorCal teams have berths now?
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by luvhaters » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:47 am

Luv2teach...you do know Smash wasn't the only 98 team to receive a berth? Sounds to me like you have a bone to pick with this team...
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by notme » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:20 pm

That's what it sounds like to me also luvhaters. Move on to something else Luv2teach.
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by wichita » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:56 pm

My daughters team is going to try and qualify for the PGF nationals this year. We plan on attending the Phoenix AZ qualifier and Nor Cal qualifier(if necessary) Both tournaments combine for a total of 5 berths! 2 in AZ and 3 in Nor Cal.

That being said you could lose a berth from having a bad umpire or a few bad calls or just a bad game(happens to everyone)while someone gets an invite that doesn't even have to show up to qualify..... just don't get it. And why give out invites this early in the season when some others have said some teams have not proven anything on the 14U level as yet? Why not wait till after qualifying is over to give out the invites that way everyone has to try and qualify.... just makes more sense,that way you can get better judgement on these teams just moving up or teams that have lost players to see where they stack up? JMO. As far as hosting a qualifier and getting an invite .....I don't agree but if that is what they want so be it, they are going to have to have ORG's have qualifiers so this is one way to make sure that happens. But it should still be mandatory to play in the qualifiers.

Don't get me wrong I like the idea of having 2 national tournaments and definitely like the location and number of colleges attending at the PGF

So for everyone that qualifies or gets an invite congrats! but as I see it if you keep running a tournament this way you will lose most of the U.S. and it will be nothing more than another tourney in So Cal.
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by luv2teachthegame » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:32 am

Actually I don't have a bone to pick with anyone. Just stating my opinion about 1 situation that was brought up. Unless I am mistaken, I thought that is what this was for. I was respectful in my comments about Smash and didn't knock anything they accomplished...said it at least twice. Or maybe I made some valid points and you just didn't like to hear it.

As far as "moving on"...I would if I didn't have anything to say, but since I do, I will stay right here until that changes. You are free to not visit the link if you don't like it.

I have heard rumors of other 98 teams getting berths, and I would disagree with any of them equally. Like I said before...just my opinion on this type of handling of berths. Not that it matters, but just what seems to be the most unbias and honest way to handle it. Those that have proven themselves at each given level should be considered for berths.
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by lv2earat8 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:32 am

So for everyone that qualifies or gets an invite congrats! but as I see it if you keep running a tournament this way you will lose most of the U.S. and it will be nothing more than another tourney in So Cal.




You forgot to add, just another So. Cal tourney STILL with the top teams,best weather and very a large number of college coaches. I think these guys have been around a while and know what they are doing?
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by jonriv » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:08 am

lv2earat8 wrote:
So for everyone that qualifies or gets an invite congrats! but as I see it if you keep running a tournament this way you will lose most of the U.S. and it will be nothing more than another tourney in So Cal.




You forgot to add, just another So. Cal tourney STILL with the top teams,best weather and very a large number of college coaches. I think these guys have been around a while and know what they are doing?



Don't you agree that attracting top teams from all over the country not only makes this a "true" Nationals, but a far more interesting tournament? IMO the best part of a national tournament is playing teams you have never seen or have heard of. from what I have seen, PGF is trying to do that, but they need the invitations now so that they have a guaranteed base to run the tourney. I am sure that as soon as they are able- invites will be limited to top ten finishers and those out of area organizations that hold a qualifier for them- perhaps they will even disqualify teams that do not finish on the top 50???
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by notme » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:50 am

luv2teachthegame, no one said," don't post anymore". It seems like there is a hair in the butter when it comes to Smash. We get your point. Move on.....
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by luvhaters » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:17 am

Thank you for stating the obvious jonriv...you need a guaranteed base of teams to actually show up to hold a great national tourney. Until PGF has a guaranteed base of teams, and prove that they hold the best national tourney, this is how it will be handled I'm sure.
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by jonriv » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 pm

luvhaters wrote:Thank you for stating the obvious jonriv...you need a guaranteed base of teams to actually show up to hold a great national tourney. Until PGF has a guaranteed base of teams, and prove that they hold the best national tourney, this is how it will be handled I'm sure.



It is too bad that so many do not see the obvious.

I do hope that at some point regional qualifiers will be limited to those teams in that area. Too often teams from other areas clog up open slots at qualifiers. Here in the Northeast I would say most organizations are unaware of PGF and those who attend the qualifier are friends of the organizer. I think PGF needs to spread out some more and hit other areas, but that is easy for me to say from behind a keyboard.
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