PGF Meeting??

[ontheblack]

We'll just wait a year and it wont be an issue anymore. Meanwhile, we'll go somewhere and play a 43' World Series and maybe catch up to you guys next year.

Will you play U-trip "B" again or have you caught up to U-trip "A" for 2012?

[exD1dad]

Hey Lethal Weapon..,Here's how we do it in Cali... my DD's 97 team played an ASA HS Fall League (43 ft) on Sat & then played a very limited amount of 40ft friendlies & all three 40ft tourneys in their age group on Sundays. The majority of our friendlies were 16U which of course you know the distance. Now this particular team has 2 '98 players whereas the rest(including all the pitchers) are playing for their HS..again you know the distance. It's a game..they play, compete & have fun..period, (oh well since someone always loses...some days are funner than others)

Now as far as the number 1 tourist destination in America's Hospitality is concerned, well lets just say we have everything, & I mean EVERYTHING (except Wall Street & they don't seem to be on too many "can't miss" lists lately). Fact is we have attractions, Art, music, entertainment, weather, food etc... that you will not find anywhere else ... that are unparalleled in any city in this country. Sorry, make it 10K, stay another week & you're kids will get an experience few in "the sooner state" ever get... A wonderful, unforgettable memory (win or lose) that they will cherish forever

unless of course you need another "title " for your signature, or ego, or perhaps you're scared of not achieving that & you're using the mound argument as an out, or perhaps physiologically setting your team up for failure..I honestly don't know. I do know it'd be nice to see some OK studdettes down in OC competing, but frankly, I just hope my kid'd team gets there

[LETHAL WEAPON 25]

We'll just wait a year and it wont be an issue anymore. Meanwhile, we'll go somewhere and play a 43' World Series and maybe catch up to you guys next year.

Will you play U-trip "B" again or have you caught up to U-trip "A" for 2012?

YAWN! We've never heard that one before. LOL! For the record, we've played exactly 1 "B" National when the one for our age didnt make. So we played 14B as a 13yr old team. The other 2 we won were "A" or "Open". I love how people who have never been to a National other than the Mighty ASA or the new PGF always seem to have an opinion about something they admittedly know nothing about. I dont think anyone is arguing the fact that PGF and ASA have a greater number of elite travel teams in attendance, but to say that there are absolutely no elite teams at any other national, well that just shows an incredible amount of bias as well as ignorance.
So to answer your question, Yes we will most likely play the USFA 14u "A" 43' tournament in Panama City Beach, Florida. Sorry if that doesn't meet the approval of all you "Greater Authorities" of the softball world, but it is what it is.
I'll close by saying what I always say to our friends down south. I dont pretend to know everything, but I do know our schedule is always posted and we're never hard to find.

[fastpitchdad05]

We'll just wait a year and it wont be an issue anymore. Meanwhile, we'll go somewhere and play a 43' World Series and maybe catch up to you guys next year.

Will you play U-trip "B" again or have you caught up to U-trip "A" for 2012?

YAWN! We've never heard that one before. LOL! For the record, we've played exactly 1 "B" National when the one for our age didnt make. So we played 14B as a 13yr old team. The other 2 we won were "A" or "Open". I love how people who have never been to a National other than the Mighty ASA or the new PGF always seem to have an opinion about something they admittedly know nothing about. I dont think anyone is arguing the fact that PGF and ASA have a greater number of elite travel teams in attendance, but to say that there are absolutely no elite teams at any other national, well that just shows an incredible amount of bias as well as ignorance.
So to answer your question, Yes we will most likely play the USFA 14u "A" 43' tournament in Panama City Beach, Florida. Sorry if that doesn't meet the approval of all you "Greater Authorities" of the softball world, but it is what it is.
I'll close by saying what I always say to our friends down south. I dont pretend to know everything, but I do know our schedule is always posted and we're never hard to find.

I guess the folks at PGF we'll see you next year then if you manage to qualify.

You won't be hard to spot wearing this:

[ontheblack]

We'll just wait a year and it wont be an issue anymore. Meanwhile, we'll go somewhere and play a 43' World Series and maybe catch up to you guys next year.

Will you play U-trip "B" again or have you caught up to U-trip "A" for 2012?

YAWN! We've never heard that one before. LOL! For the record, we've played exactly 1 "B" National when the one for our age didnt make. So we played 14B as a 13yr old team. The other 2 we won were "A" or "Open". I love how people who have never been to a National other than the Mighty ASA or the new PGF always seem to have an opinion about something they admittedly know nothing about. I dont think anyone is arguing the fact that PGF and ASA have a greater number of elite travel teams in attendance, but to say that there are absolutely no elite teams at any other national, well that just shows an incredible amount of bias as well as ignorance.
So to answer your question, Yes we will most likely play the USFA 14u "A" 43' tournament in Panama City Beach, Florida. Sorry if that doesn't meet the approval of all you "Greater Authorities" of the softball world, but it is what it is.
I'll close by saying what I always say to our friends down south. I dont pretend to know everything, but I do know our schedule is always posted and we're never hard to find.

I will concede the bias, but not the ignorance.

Why wont you play ASA?

[anonlooker]

Wow. Nice response, Is this the type hospitality that out of town teams can expect from our friends out west?

Don't let it bother you, these guys have won exactly as many PGF titles as you have.

[ontheblack]

Why wont you play ASA?

Because it is at 40'

Not the previous years.

[freetacos]

imho...when I was coaching a team that faced different pitching distance in several tournaments..We chose not to tell the girls at all.

Let the girls learn and grow up. That goes for pitching and hitting.

[ontheblack]

Wow. Nice response, Is this the type hospitality that out of town teams can expect from our friends out west?

Don't let it bother you, these guys have won exactly as many PGF titles as you have.

True, but at least we are talking about Nationals (ASA and PGF) where good teams from California are participating, placing and winning. Take a look at the 60+ teams at the Utrip World Series in 2011 and let me know which ones from California you have seen play.

[jonriv]

Wow. Nice response, Is this the type hospitality that out of town teams can expect from our friends out west?

Don't let it bother you, these guys have won exactly as many PGF titles as you have.

True, but at least we are talking about Nationals (ASA and PGF) where good teams from California are participating, placing and winning. Take a look at the 60+ teams at the Utrip World Series in 2011 and let me know which ones from California you have seen play.

Do good California teams go to the PGF because they think it is the best or because it is in their own backyard??(Is that not one of the reasons it was started??) Many very good teams do not make the trip to ASA or PGF because of the distances involved- hard to comprehend for some diehard softball people- but a reality. The vast majority of teams from the east coast NEVER travel west of the mississippi- most never even come close to it. Most of the organizations on the east coast have never heard of PGF- those who have that are not in the "chosen group" for the Northeast qualifier find the slots already filled by out of area teams given the inside track. There are many very good teams that either do not do a "nationals" or if they do it is within driving distance. If PGF really wants to be a true national tournament-IMO they need to get a better presence outside of the California, Arizona & Texas and find some more high calibre teams from other parts of the country. Drop the invites to all but the previous top ten finishers and those who host qualifiers. PGF I feel have done a great job so far-but it could be so much more.