another missed base scenario

[Gulf Coast Blue]

News flash.. Pluto has been re-classified as a dwarf planet and a plutoid...

Relevance - My dad, you, and I was taught it was just a planet. Seize the day my friend...nobody knows how many we might have left.

A master of anything learns the most from his minions.

I read all eleven of the pages of the post......and what I have learned is that you never respected authority and that only your personal opinion should be respected.

If you read the whole posts I have already made a couple of concessions concerning a proper appeal and that was what the whole argument has been about. But I have also cited at least 2 live appeal plays that did not require a "secondary action", "Known Intent", or "verbalization". The Live Appeal just took place as prescribed in the rulebook.

AND I ALSO KNOW there are situations when play has become relaxed and they do something that is not normal progression of play, then I would have to require some form of verbalization of what they are attempting to do.

They have tried to trip me up on that 1st to 3rd situation where the defender brushes up agaisnt 2B.. Come on, was an actual play being made at 2B? did the girl pause and look at me as if she wanted me to make some type of call? the answer is no.

You brought up that....Bret was just making a point.

Umpiring is about the hardest task a fan of the game can partake in. You are required to to load about 150 pages of rules in your brain and act on plays in 1 second.

Umpiring, while it may be difficult.....is not unlike any other job. Apply what you are taught....and you will be fine. You are one that tends to not apply what you are taught. Which makes me wonder if you were ever a Marine........I tend to doubt that now.....


BTW... I played baseball from the time I was 4 to 18 playing at the college level until I hurt my arm. Marines were next. At the age of 20 I was umpiring High School Ball and by 21 was umpiring at the College Level. I took a break and actually played baseball until I was 38. Travel Softball with both my girls for the last six years and now I am here on Heybucket arguing with you guys.

Ok....now you want to compare resume's.......I started umpiring baseball in 1978 and within a year was assigned to the highest level of American Legion in my part of the State. I did not deserve it, but was better than many of the umpires in the area. This type of assignment was unheard of in my area........but it happened. I went to college and had the unique opportunity to watch and learn from umpires such as Jon Bible and Randy Cristal.....poor me.....If you don't know who they are......you are not much of a college baseball official (although they do more football these days.....d;-)

I also have over 20 years of coaching experience between my three daughters (all grown now).


I only say this because I wasn't sure if you were bragging, intimidating, or just wanted me to get know you guys....LOL

I am not saying you are lying.....but I have never heard of a 21 year old umpire ever being assigned a NCAA Div I game in the 33 years I have been an official. Call it bragging if you will..........

Oh!! one last thing...I stand by my OP although I should not have been so abrasive...I was trying to kid around and it spawned into 11 pages of stuff. But I still stand by it.. We have'nt even discussed the whole no such thing as a force out at first deal but that tipped me off that he has read the rulebook about a 1000 times. When an umpire gets picky like that it makes the coaches mad. Most coaches define a force out as not having to tag a girl for the out so in effect there is such a thing as a force out at 1st base and when I read his OP he clarified that in a way that made it hard to read but he did clarify it. Even UmpSteve said the same thing and I still think it is funny. Need to be careful in what you say or how you say it or your point will not be taken seriously. Arguing with someone over a put out and a force out is never a good idea.

Coaches coach.....players play and umpires umpire...........

I am sure they are fine folks...other than a little bantering...I have never said anything bad about them. Now most of them have told me not to umpire, 1 feels sorry for me, etc... But also understand it is a website if I meet any of these fine folks in person one day I am sure it would be a good conversation. If nothing else I will allow them to look at me like some kinda of specimen for 30 seconds....LMAO

One last thing......I have determined that you are a troll.........and will not be taken seriously from now on.............just my little gift to you.

Joel

Edited due to the screwed up capabilities of this site. I guess that is why I never posted before. I hope it takes html code.

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Never argue with idiots...they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

[GIMNEPIWO]

Clintbos stars as the Black Knight :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD ... re=related

[tcannizzo]

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[jonriv]

perhaps we should introduce him to Joe?

[clintbos]

@gulf coast

Calm down...

This is a website called Heybucket. Not http://www.officialnationalasaumpirings ... mittee.com

I have never met you guys and the banter about everybody's credentials is just that. Where do you see me wanting to compare resumes'. MTR said it best what past experiences is worth to an official. Just because you login and post doesn't mean I am supposed to be irreverant in every thing that is said.

In fact I think One guy on her has 2 handles and here I was thinking 2 guys were after me and it was just one.

Please quote me on anything you feel has been disrespectful towards these guys that I have said other than my first post which was a little abrasive which I said I regretted.

You brought up that....Bret was just making a point.

Actually, the first person to bring it up was MTR and nobody has answered my rebuttle.

I have only cited rules and how I interpret those rules and my opinions on the rules..I know everybody disagrees with me on this thread but you don not see me calling people trolls and if you ever and I mean ever try to discredit my service in the Marine Corps.....I just want be your friend.... Seriously, that is going over the line a little bit. Don't you think.

P.S. - please clean up your post, it looks like I am talking to myself.

[clintbos]

Clintbos stars as the Black Knight :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD ... re=related

Hopefully you re not on the ASA National Umpiring Staff or rules committee.


I like the top comment though

"The black knight is the definiton of commitment!"

that is hilarious, Never been a Monty Python Fan but that is funny

[clintbos]

Ok I have no idea what a feedtroll is but it has got to be bad. Didn't realize only certain people are invited to open threads and discussions. I only responded to posts directed towards me for that I apologize. Please continue to use this thread to make fun of me and call me names but I will not posts on this thread anymore. I will probably read it though so keep'um coming. Maybe I will login and make fun of myself.

[tcannizzo]

[feedtroll]
"Troll" is an individual who posts on message boards with controversial/outrageous content solely for the purpose of getting a rise out of other posters, by creating long-running threads with no reality behind the content. Trolls are typically repeat offenders and can't stop themselves, even when called out.

"Feeding the troll" is a term used to describe those who encourage the troll by responding in good faith and taking what was posted at face value. But in the end they are leading themselves to be duped.

"BBCode" is what allows you to quote and format text on message boards such as HB.
It starts with a square left-bracket "[", contains a command such as "quote" or "b" for bold, and ends with a square right-bracket "]".
The command is terminated by a square left-bracket "[", a slash "/", followed by the command to be terminated, then followed by a square right bracket "]".
BBCode is not shown in the final text.

Last time I checked, there was no real BBCode for [feedtroll] nor was there a real [/feedtroll] command, but I was just checking to see if a new version had this feature. But still not there.
Some message boards have an "Ignore" feature which good posters apply to Trolls, but I don't think HB has that feature either.

It means there will no more feeding the troll by the poster.
Over and out.
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[Comp]

If its me you think has more than one screen name you would be incorrect.

[HugoTafurst]

BTW - What is the record for most pages?