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Runnin' Rebels GOLD-Fall Showcase of Talent

by 90066DAD » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:57 am

LOGS10 wrote:I think many of you are missing the point. From some of the comments we should just sit back and not have an opinion after paying entry fee for the team, gas to get there, hotel and food and a snack bar that had high prices and for less than desireable selection. So what some of your are saying is now that my DD is at this level we should no longer expect tournaments to be put on with pride and proffesionalism. I stand by my statement about the umpires, there were junior rec ball at best. The only thing they were consistant on was being inconsistant. That is all we ask is be consistant and when you have the same umpire for several games and his strike zone is different each time how is that fair to the girls. The ones we had were arrogant and made it known the game was about them. As an unpire my goal was to not have anything to do with the outcome of the game just call it by the book. Needless to say we will be looking for an alternative for next year.
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I'm sorry the weekend was so disappointing for you. I'm not affiliated with the host organization, so the opinions that I'm expressing here are from a third party perspective.

If I'm one of those people who you believe are "missing the point", then I apologize. I think I understand your point. It's just that I believe there are other points involved in the big picture of things.

Entry fee, gas, hotel and food are costs which would be incurred no matter which showcase you attend. If the snack bar is bad, bring your own food. If they don't allow coolers inside the premises, then pull the coolers up to the fence and put your chair down right outside the fence.

If the umpiring is inconsistent, the college coaches will see it. They're not there to evaluate players based on results that are largely dictated by calls. They are looking at players for an overall impression of their athleticism, skills, and temperament. They'll notice that the called third strike on your kid was almost two feet off the corner. There's the chance for your kid (and her parents) to show that they have enough restraint not to say something to the ump that would have adverse consequences to your team. If your kid is the pitcher and she's getting squeezed by the blue, here's a chance for her to show how she would deal with that situation. If I’m a college coach watching that pitcher, I would love to see how she handles it. It’s going to happen again in a college game at some point. Productive showcasing can still take place with bad umpiring.

This was an opportunity for you to show your kid how to handle adversity and make the best of it. Don’t you think that might benefit her at some point in the future?

Yes, Stockton has the heat, the high crime rate, sometimes bad umpiring, etc. But there are plenty of No.Cal., Oregon and Washington coaches attending this showcase year after year. It's the first big event of the fall. If at least one kid on your team received some attention from any of those schools who were in attendance, the trip was worthwhile.
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by softballmafia » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:22 am

There was no Washington,Oregon.etc at this exposure....This was one on the worst college turnouts I have seen in a long time compared to the list that was provided on the web site....I probably saw around 10 coaches total at the main site.
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by TooOldToCare » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:41 pm

Then you were not looking in the right places. Our team was at Arnaiz, not the main facility, but I tracked over to McNair, the main facility for the free grub, and it was good! I am the College Liaison for our team. I personally spoke with 20 college coaches on the weekend including a school from Nevada, one from New Mexico, one from Utah and even one from the state of Alabama. Of the twenty that I spoke to, there was only one who did not make it over to Arnaiz while I was present. It was a good coaches showing for this tournament, and yes our girls got some real good looks that I believe will result in some visits! Great job R & R and THANK YOU! This tournament has improved each of the last two years and should continue to grow in colleges attending!
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by CheckWriter » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:34 pm

If they don't allow coolers inside the premises, then pull the coolers up to the fence and put your chair down right outside the fence.


At the risk of not smelling the roses, last time I was at Arnaiz, they had put up opaque enough "green screens" that it was no longer practical to watch from outside the fence. Better to force you to pay to get in and get a concussion from the foul balls. That said, at one time there was much rumor and excitement about nets planning to be installed to help mitigate the foul ball situation. This plan was attributed to the hosts' desire to respond to all the feedback on Hey Bucket.

Did that ever happen?
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by TooOldToCare » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:19 am

Nope! Still a shooting gallery! As is McNair and Louis Park as well!
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by Iluvblue » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:34 am

Unfortunately those fields are CITY owned. We have been trying to get that situation handled for several months, you have NO CLUE how hard certain individuals have been working to get that fixed as city workers tell us this needs to get approved by that department and that person needs to sign off on this. They say it will happen today and then it doesnt.

That being said, the work order is in place and that situation is getting fixed..... probably within the next 2 weeks. We had hoped it would have been handled prior to last weekends tournament, but it didnt happen to no fault of the people getting it taken care of.

The city isnt even forking out any money and it is like pulling teeth to get stuff handled.

And by the way, Mcnair has some pretty high backstops, not sure what else you want done there.
Louis Park has the seats covered with a protective screen and the back stops go out into fair territory to stop foul balls. I guess you could carry a glove.
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by Old Darter » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:15 am

softballmafia wrote:There was no Washington,Oregon.etc at this exposure....This was one on the worst college turnouts I have seen in a long time compared to the list that was provided on the web site....I probably saw around 10 coaches total at the main site.


And several NorCal teams missing due to the "if you don't play in our tourney on Memorial Day, you can't play in the showcase of talent" mandate.
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by DDG » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:52 am

Come on guys, complaining about the foul balls???? We have that problem at most of our So Cal fields, including Diamond Valley, Huntington Beach Sports Complex, Bill Barber, etc. We always bring an umbrella (they are not just for shade and rain).

Unfortunately, I do feel the college attendance was down, especially the caliber of the programs (academic and athletic). This is common in all showcases.
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by TooOldToCare » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:19 pm

I wasn't complaining. Just answered a question and observed that the other fields in Stockton were the same. It is what it is and I am alright with it!
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by Iluvblue » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:34 pm

Well us up here in this area are not ok with it. Arnaiz is dangerous, and we should not have to see people getting hurt, and someday seriously hurt before something is done. That is why the GSJSA board has taken steps to get it fixed.

So it will be taken care of REAL soon:)
Same with the dirt infield at McNair and Louis. It has been terrible, so new dirt has been brought in, and some more is coming as well so we can get it fixed.
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