has VTD finally jumped the shark?

[Crusher]

It is has been too quiet on the Bucket for a while…time for some hot sports opinions!

Is it time to stir up VeneralTransmittedDisease (VTD) VS ASA argument again!

I am wondering if VTD has finally jumped the shark? For those of you that do not know what this term means “Jumping the shark” is an idiom, first employed to describe a moment in the evolution of a television show when it begins a decline in quality that is beyond recovery.

If the way the VTD World Series was presented last weekend from the lousy Opening Ceremonies to the poor choice of field locations, to the season long problem with poor quality VTD umpires to the last minute begging sub-par to play in a World Series, I think so! (Did you notice the decline list in each age group?) Expecting 50+ teams and only getting 20 to 30. And teams that were invited shouldn’t be playing in a World Series in the first place.

And how many of you got that telemarketing call from VTD (using private emergency contact phone numbers listed on individual team page) asking to “invest” $3000.00 and but that voice on the other end of the line could not present a prospectus to show how that investment was going to be used and what the rate of return would be, and how it would be paid out? I am sure the FTC would love to know about this?

For you VTD supporters…ever ask yourself why the a lot of the top teams in DFW only use VTD as a necessary evil, and mostly play ASA or Premier tournaments, and rarely use VTD in their organizational resumes?

Yes, VTD caught ASA with its pants down, I will give them that, and yes that internet page was real cool, but has become stale. Come on, surely ASA or Premier can come in and straighten out this mess and restore Select Travel North Texas Fast Pitch Softball to prominence, and leave the VTD organization and its lousy poorly trained umpires to rec ball where they belong!

If the folks at ASA can get their $%^& together they have a chance here to get back in the game! Stop using the non-profit excuse….the dollars are there just use them wisely and find someone that can rebuild the relationships with the local cities to get the good fields again.

[Joe]

Don't know about anywhere else, but in DFW, VTD is alive and well, but not because VTD's website or anything else they're doing special. Most of the major parks worth visiting around North Texas (GP excluded) have chosen to associate themselves with VTD and as long as that's the case, they'll do okay in this area.

If ASA did some housecleaning, especially in Fort Worth, those same parks could easily revert back to ASA. If that happens, VTD would be toast. So it's really in ASA's court right now. Dump a fellow or two...and all wounds will heal, they take over DFW once again.

Outside of North Texas, VTD hasn't made much progress. Their marketing team appears to be made up of amateurs who do not know how to sell a product or take advantage of ASA's demise.

Time will tell, but unless Alan hires some real professionals and sets aside the good old boys, the growth that they hoped for will come very slowly, if at all.

[dueceduece]

Yes our coach got that call for "investment" just like all the other teams I know. Quite a few... Sounds like maybe VTD has a Cash Flow problem ....hmmmm wonder if that is why ASA pulled the plug on the deal with VTD.
It wasn't that VTD wanted to go out and make its own league. It did that because ASA did not continue the with a new contract.
We all know the only reason VTD is strong in DFW is the website and the website alone!! Quit saying it is all these nice ballparks. Yes there are some of the new fields around but if you don't run a tournament right and do the little things like line fields, water, trash does it really matter.
We have played at all the fields around and I have to tell you some of our worst experiences have come from these so called better parks. Yes, we will not play at them anymore. After several times same thing always happens, not going to do it again.

[Joe]

Yes, we will not play at them anymore.

Don't let the door hit in you in the azz on the way out...

Those "nice" parks suffered mightily this spring, with all those teams on their waiting lists trying to get in..! Can you hear cha-ching, cha-ching..?

...and they'll do just peachy without VTD, ASA...or your whining drivel...

[dueceduece]

And there you have it all about the Money!!!
sounds like I hit a nerver there Ken!!

[Joe]

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sounds like I hit a nerver there Ken!!

Let me call and ask him...

[Joe]

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sounds like I hit a nerver there Ken!!

Let me call and ask him...

No answer...I'll bet he's counting all that coin...

[FastTrack]

VTD could be a good thing for the local teams that don't have the money to travel. But it will Never be a true nationals. 16U ASA 172 teams the fields are pristine watered between every game and water i'n every dug out. 10-15 college coaches at every game.The experience is well worth the money.Some people my hate ASA but it's still the big show!!!

[pathetic]

My just created page name says exactly what I think of the same old posters trying to stir up trouble. What a bunch of cry babies. The fast pitch crowd is the biggest bunch of cry babies when it comes to spending a little money to have a nice facility to play at. All you cry babies want every thing for free. I will be laughing very soon as you all loose your free ride in the tax payer maintained city parks. The cities are strapped for cash and will be opting for paying customers verses free play for fast pitch. Fast pitch needs to take a lesson from BASEBALL. You have to PAY FOR A NICE PLACE TO PLAY. Baseball community has it right. They understand that everything is not FREE. WAKE UP FAST PITCH BEFORE THERE IS NO ONE LEFT TO PUT UP WITH YOUR B.S.

[justawatcher]

My just created page name says exactly what I think of the same old posters trying to stir up trouble. What a bunch of cry babies. The fast pitch crowd is the biggest bunch of cry babies when it comes to spending a little money to have a nice facility to play at. All you cry babies want every thing for free. I will be laughing very soon as you all loose your free ride in the tax payer maintained city parks. The cities are strapped for cash and will be opting for paying customers verses free play for fast pitch. Fast pitch needs to take a lesson from BASEBALL. You have to PAY FOR A NICE PLACE TO PLAY. Baseball community has it right. They understand that everything is not FREE. WAKE UP FAST PITCH BEFORE THERE IS NO ONE LEFT TO PUT UP WITH YOUR B.S.

Ok Larry. Thanks for the info.