Not trying to save face for the org. Trying to minimize the effect's bestowed upon my daughter and the rest of the girls on the team. The girls have managed to move forward with their coach and hopefully they have all learned a very valuable lesson from this.. BE AWARE and observant of your peers and your coaches. And also,, COMUNICATE..
I am not trying to play down the situation what so-ever.. It was and is a very serious issue. Was I concerned when I learned of the situation? Extremely.. Was I upset and considering other courses of action for my daughter?? Certainly...
Even my daughter expressed how dissapointed and hurt by the actions the of a coach. This lead to some very long discussions within our household, and with the other members of the team.
I am trying to save face for my child and her team mates.. No need to re-hash matters that these young girls have learned to deal with and just move forward. As well as they man they all play for, Mike Loomis, the person who had the courage to face the girls and explain the situation. He must have done or said something to make these girls belive in him. I believe 8 or 9 of them stuck with him and are still on this team. Growing together day by day.
NorCal
ssct1y wrote:Not trying to save face for the org. Trying to minimize the effect's bestowed upon my daughter and the rest of the girls on the team. The girls have managed to move forward with their coach and hopefully they have all learned a very valuable lesson from this.. BE AWARE and observant of your peers and your coaches. And also,, COMUNICATE..
I am not trying to play down the situation what so-ever.. It was and is a very serious issue. Was I concerned when I learned of the situation? Extremely.. Was I upset and considering other courses of action for my daughter?? Certainly...
Even my daughter expressed how dissapointed and hurt by the actions the of a coach. This lead to some very long discussions within our household, and with the other members of the team.
I am trying to save face for my child and her team mates.. No need to re-hash matters that these young girls have learned to deal with and just move forward. As well as they man they all play for, Mike Loomis, the person who had the courage to face the girls and explain the situation. He must have done or said something to make these girls belive in him. I believe 8 or 9 of them stuck with him and are still on this team. Growing together day by day.
We've played your team since the event with knowledge of what had happened before the conviction. Not one parent or player was focused on anything but softball. The Comets ML are a solid team. No reasonable person is looking at this team in an respect other than you need to be ready to play when you play them.
Having daughters (as most should being on this board) and being a man there is a line you do not cross with communicating with young ladies. It's clear, well defined, and the responsibility to uphold that line is ALWAYS with the ADULT. While I'm not naive that communication requires two people the adult should be well aware of the consequences that they are facing. More important than that is the potential mental health issues they are creating for the child. I don't hold anyone responsible for this EXCEPT Mr. Allen.
If the girls play to the best of their ability and respect the game you'll never have to worry about saving face. While life is never free of drama we (my child and myself) tend to judge teams based on their ability to play softball.
Open and honest communication is always good. I apologize if I misunderstood your tone in the first post. Thanks for sharing your insight.
- ICMTM
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Every organization has a huge responsibility to look in to the background on every adult who is tasked with being a coach, manger or team parent. If an adult is going to be with children in these positions, all adults (parents) need to be aware of what can happen.
I believe there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to background checks. I would hope that organizations do not solely rely on just a Megan's Law checks. At a minimum, Get an application, personal history statement, finger printing, Megan's Law check and a check of court proceedings on each applicant.
Every team should verify everything piece of information given, do not take "their word" on these things. These type people (animals) who want to be near these kids will lie and say anything to get into a position of power over children.
Some will say they don't have the resources to do these things or do not know how, find someone who will. It is way to important not too. I make time to do it for my DD, every team she has been on, I have done what I could to satisfy my worries.
Additionally, talk to your kids tell them what kind of people are out there, give them situations, let the tell you what they would do if approached, attacked or witnessed these things.
I do not know anyone on the Comets and never have met the coach, but it was very easy to find a little bit of his criminal history on line for free. Here's a very easy check for Counties that have Superior Court on line pages...'s
Sacramento County Superior Court web page....look up the page click on the "case index files", its a drop down box. enter the name of the coach and then look at all the people with the same name....you might need a little knowledge of the Ca Penal Code to understand his current charges and his prior arrests and convictions. This is all public record and is free. it only takes a few minute of your time to run checks. just do it.
I believe there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to background checks. I would hope that organizations do not solely rely on just a Megan's Law checks. At a minimum, Get an application, personal history statement, finger printing, Megan's Law check and a check of court proceedings on each applicant.
Every team should verify everything piece of information given, do not take "their word" on these things. These type people (animals) who want to be near these kids will lie and say anything to get into a position of power over children.
Some will say they don't have the resources to do these things or do not know how, find someone who will. It is way to important not too. I make time to do it for my DD, every team she has been on, I have done what I could to satisfy my worries.
Additionally, talk to your kids tell them what kind of people are out there, give them situations, let the tell you what they would do if approached, attacked or witnessed these things.
I do not know anyone on the Comets and never have met the coach, but it was very easy to find a little bit of his criminal history on line for free. Here's a very easy check for Counties that have Superior Court on line pages...'s
Sacramento County Superior Court web page....look up the page click on the "case index files", its a drop down box. enter the name of the coach and then look at all the people with the same name....you might need a little knowledge of the Ca Penal Code to understand his current charges and his prior arrests and convictions. This is all public record and is free. it only takes a few minute of your time to run checks. just do it.
- gottano44
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Nor-Cal Ball wrote:The sad part here is that the head coach took his side and did not believe the girl, even though there was tons of evidence that led to a conviction.
@Norcal Screwball you should get your FACTS straight and not pretend to know the situation(think you had a few to many to drink). Do you really have our kids best interest at heart or is this a personal attack on the head coach? The head coach dismissed the assistant coach from the team the day he found out,and was also told to he could never ever attend a game OR practice ever again!
- softball98
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I hope people realize that these child predators never ever get caught on the first offense. In fact, there are on the average 80+ occurrences before the maggot is arrested and convicted. Now that this POS is incarcerated, parents of girls, or even young boys who may have had contact with this oxygen thief need to have a sit down with their kids to see if they may have been victimized. There is no cure for this behavior other than life long imprisonment or a well placed shank. Mike Loomis is a great man, get off his case. Place the blame where it belongs and keep your kids safe!
- #1fann
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ttty
Trust me I know the facts. I probably know more than most parents on the team. There is only a few select parents that really know all of the truth and it was kept that way so that the team would not dismantle. Even tho there was inappropriate behavior from Mike it's not about him. I'm sure there is a ton of people who had no clue about this and there daughters maybe at one point had some kind of contact with Steve.
softball98 wrote:Nor-Cal Ball wrote:The sad part here is that the head coach took his side and did not believe the girl, even though there was tons of evidence that led to a conviction.
@Norcal Screwball you should get your FACTS straight and not pretend to know the situation(think you had a few to many to drink). Do you really have our kids best interest at heart or is this a personal attack on the head coach? The head coach dismissed the assistant coach from the team the day he found out,and was also told to he could never ever attend a game OR practice ever again!
Trust me I know the facts. I probably know more than most parents on the team. There is only a few select parents that really know all of the truth and it was kept that way so that the team would not dismantle. Even tho there was inappropriate behavior from Mike it's not about him. I'm sure there is a ton of people who had no clue about this and there daughters maybe at one point had some kind of contact with Steve.
- Nor-Cal Ball
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If you stand by your postings then sign your name at the end and stop hiding behind
Nor-cal ball. Then we will all see if you hold any weight in the softball community.
BTW- There has never been any inappropriate behavior from Mike Loomis at all what so ever. You need help!!!
Nor-cal ball. Then we will all see if you hold any weight in the softball community.
BTW- There has never been any inappropriate behavior from Mike Loomis at all what so ever. You need help!!!
- softball98
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It's disgusting how many pedo-philes are part of fastpitch.
I think, that I shall try to do the utmost to be new today
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softball98 wrote:If you stand by your postings then sign your name at the end and stop hiding behind
Nor-cal ball. Then we will all see if you hold any weight in the softball community.
BTW- There has never been any inappropriate behavior from Mike Loomis at all what so ever. You need help!!!
Kettle, meet Pot. Pot, meet Kettle.
I think, that I shall try to do the utmost to be new today
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@Nor Cal SCREW Ball....
Why are you doing this. I understand that maybe you want to get it out there regarding Steve, So make this topic about him!! But why make it seem like you have a personal vendeta against Mike Loomis and this team. Dont you know the effect your statements may have and how the only people that you could hurt at this point are the girls on the team! The guy is already in jail... SO GIVE IT A REST AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. MY CHILD IS ON THE TEAM, AND REALLY LIKES PLAYING FOR MIKE. YOU ARE STARTING TO ANNOY ME WITH ALL OF THIS AND IF YOU HURT MY CHILD IN ANY WAY,,,,, I WILL FIND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why are you doing this. I understand that maybe you want to get it out there regarding Steve, So make this topic about him!! But why make it seem like you have a personal vendeta against Mike Loomis and this team. Dont you know the effect your statements may have and how the only people that you could hurt at this point are the girls on the team! The guy is already in jail... SO GIVE IT A REST AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. MY CHILD IS ON THE TEAM, AND REALLY LIKES PLAYING FOR MIKE. YOU ARE STARTING TO ANNOY ME WITH ALL OF THIS AND IF YOU HURT MY CHILD IN ANY WAY,,,,, I WILL FIND YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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