NorCal Tryouts For 12U

[Iluvblue]

I guess tryout postings are now ok??

[lookingIN]

IluvBlue, As long as it isnt the Monarchs... ......just kiddin

[ssarge]

Then perhaps this entire thread should be moved. Just as you removed mine attempting to start an entire thread where everyone could list their 14U tryouts. You apparently haven't read this thread, which lists a series of 12U tryouts. Not sure why 14U is different, but OK..

I WILL drop this issue. I realize you know my position. But I will reiterate a final time my incredulity that tryouts are apparently the ONE topic which can't be posted. From my perspective THE single most important topic.

Your board, your rules. I'll comply.

Scott

[sftblldud]

Then perhaps this entire thread should be moved. Just as you removed mine attempting to start an entire thread where everyone could list their 14U tryouts. You apparently haven't read this thread, which lists a series of 12U tryouts. Not sure why 14U is different, but OK..

I WILL drop this issue. I realize you know my position. But I will reiterate a final time my incredulity that tryouts are apparently the ONE topic which can't be posted. From my perspective THE single most important topic.

Your board, your rules. I'll comply.

Scott

Can someone post the seniority list for HeyBucket, that way I know where I stand and so I make sure to not step on somebodys toes.

Oh Yea, I don't give a Sh_t where I stand, I'm going to post what I feel anyway. If you dont like it you can get ______!!

P.S. I sleep very soundly knowing I don't have to Kiss anybodys A$$!!!!

[bruisedshin]

Tryouts board now has information about the new 12U team coached by Lyndsey Klein, Jenny Topping and Michele Granger. I can't tell if it's a 00 or a 99.

[FullCount]

From the looks of things, it seems DeMarini is gonna be the team to be on... Makes me wish my DD were still in 12s just to tryout & see if she could have that opportunity... I am looking forward to following the progresss of Klein's program to see if it pans out, as she & her staff definitely have the resume. Is there anything else here in NorCal that offers what this promises to?? What a much needed booster for NorCal. Good luck to this new program & those who are fortunate enough to be a part of it!

[luvmy8]

I was wondering, and I'm going to play Devil's Advocate , but what has any of them done as a COACH. All are very respected in this area and the softball community, but coaching individuals and coaching a team is 2 totally different things. How can you give so much credit to how good a team is going to be by who their coach is? It looks like to me that they are going to be coaching both teams at the same time? Or is this just a selling point? Which player is coaching which team? Also it states free of cost for the FALL (12U)what happens in the Spring when it really matters? Will they be able to keep those players when fees come in to play and travel? Also will the girls be able to handle the pressure of being on an "ELITE" team? I wish them the best of luck but lets see how it all works out before we start handing them championships.

Also everyone knows combining that many "ELITE" players on one team could be a problem, because with "ELITE PLAYERS" comes "ELITE PARENTS" Someones feelings are going to get hurt,and at 12's some parents can't take reality!

I wish them the best of luck to the staff,players, and parents

[bruisedshin]

I've only seen Klein instructing hitters as extra innings, so I don't know how she'd do with a team, but she seems very patient and knowledgeable and the girls seem to like her.

Granger has been coaching Silverstreak for a couple years. She took a rec team into travel ball, and the team was terrible. Decent pitching and defense, but the team couldn't hit ASA pitching. They won 14U metros this year, knocking out solid Breeze, Mizuno and Heat teams. They also just won a 16U tournament.

She also just started as the coach at Granite Bay High, and while they were less than stellar, they won more games this year than the last three years combined in a tough league.
She also coached pitchers at Tennessee, UC Davis, and Sierra College.

I've seen Topping at the Finch camp a couple years ago with the catchers, and she was great. I've also seen her run a practice. She knows how to coach and has a very positive personality.

[FullCount]

I was wondering, and I'm going to play Devil's Advocate , but what has any of them done as a COACH. All are very respected in this area and the softball community, but coaching individuals and coaching a team is 2 totally different things. How can you give so much credit to how good a team is going to be by who their coach is? It looks like to me that they are going to be coaching both teams at the same time? Or is this just a selling point? Which player is coaching which team? Also it states free of cost for the FALL (12U)what happens in the Spring when it really matters? Will they be able to keep those players when fees come in to play and travel? Also will the girls be able to handle the pressure of being on an "ELITE" team? I wish them the best of luck but lets see how it all works out before we start handing them championships.

Also everyone knows combining that many "ELITE" players on one team could be a problem, because with "ELITE PLAYERS" comes "ELITE PARENTS" Someones feelings are going to get hurt,and at 12's some parents can't take reality!

I wish them the best of luck to the staff,players, and parents

It was not my intention to imply that this program would come out of the gate winning championships. I simply was trying to convey my enthusiasm for what they seem to hope to provide, which my take is an opportunity to learn from some established members of the softball community who have been through the entire ranks, all the way up to the highest level. It's not all about wins & losses... After perusing her website a bit, I read some testimonials from some of her students who all seem to be very happy with their experiences & outcomes with her.

Once again, best of luck in kicking off this venture!

[bruisedshin]

I don't know how Klein and Topping will do with parents, but a couple more points in their favor. 1) Having a coach that played on olympic/national teams makes it a lot less likely that parents will try to "teach" the coach how it's supposed to be done.

2) A lot of girls have experienced situations where an inexperienced rec or even ASA coach tries to tell them things that contradict what their batting/pitching coaches are telling them, and they lose respect for the opinion of their coach. In this type of situation, even if the information is contradictory, they know that the coach has played at the highest level and is not "wrong" even if they approach hitting/pitching differently.

3) These coaches know a lot of college coaches. A lot of their teammates are coaching all over the country. Girls on these teams don't have to worry about about being "seen". If they can play, coaches will know about them.

As FullCount said, that doesn't mean that they're going to win tournaments out of the gate. It's even possible that they will bypass talent that comes with an attitude. I'm sure the coaches are confident that they can teach, and I doubt they have a lot of patience for kids and parents who think they're better than they are.

From reading the flyers, it seems like Granger will just be helping with pitchers on the 12s, and Klein and Topping will probably help with practices (fielding and hitting, maybe) for the 16s.