Surf City Summer Showcase

[dodgerblue]

They're still getting used to running these type of showcase/tournaments so be patient and be happy that they run these type of showcases and get colleges out there. NOT! same old shit and nothing changes. Champions Cup was the real deal all fields had fences, fields prepped and brackets updated. Felt like a National tournament to me.

[Gone in 2.6]

Surf City Tourneys field preperations suck (always has been this way). They can give you several reasons why they don't prep fields, each of them unexcusable.

Not sure what fields you were at but at the main complex in HB, from what I experienced, the fields were dragged and rechalked between every other game and some between every game. The city maintenance handles it.

And there were plenty of coaches on Friday and Saturday at the fields in HB and at Chino Hills 16U division. Can't say about other locations. I spent Wednesday and Thursday at CC and saw all the same schools on Friday an Saturday at Surf City in HB.

I too always had a good experience at HB for Surf City.

[softballmafia]

It is funny how surfcity decided to have the tournament at the same time as C-CUP.....I did not remember in the past that surfcity played the same time.....are they trying to drive C-CUP out?

[jmo]

It is funny how surfcity decided to have the tournament at the same time as C-CUP.....I did not remember in the past that surfcity played the same time.....are they trying to drive C-CUP out?

In 2007, the Batbusters, So Cal A's and a couple of other teams had pulled out of CC for several reasons - the fact that most of their kids were already committed and didn't need to play games from Wednesday - Sunday since they had just played up to 7-10 games in the TNJ and 10-12 games in Boulder - being the main reason. If I remember correctly, they were going to return to CC but were put on a waiting list to get in. With that being said, they started a Surf City event which was not all week long and was more of just a showcase and not a tourney. The event has now grown to include over 100 teams in the 18U division. They have made Sunday a tourney format to give teams a chance to play meaningful games. Yes it does make it difficult to finish the tourney and get out early since there are so many teams. Several teams had to leave early and that is not a problem as most teams entered were here for just getting players seen. The real tournaments are upcoming with ASA Gold and PGF Nationals. That is when teams will be here to win.

Champions Cup does a great job with their tournament as this is the only tourney(16U&18U)they host all year. They can really focus on the event and I know that we always enjoyed playing in it as well. The Bollingers are great. With that being said, we decided not to play in it this year as we, too, did not need to play from Wednesday-Sunday as we only have a couple of players uncommitted so we played in the Surf City. I have no complaints with the fields at HB as they were dragged and chalked regularly. Umpiring was great and the competition we played was excellent.

They did not start the Surf City event to try and drive CC out. With as many teams that are out there in this day and age, it gives teams another option to play games in a shorter time span.

[ssarge]

If I remember correctly, they were going to return to CC but were put on a waiting list to get in.

Bret,

I think some - not all - of the teams you mentioned were given a chance to earn a berth for the following year through a play-in tournament up in Corona.



Was at Chino Hills this past weekend, as our NorCal 14U team played in 16U. Very well run. Field prep was fine. Good snack bar, umpires were very freindly - unbelievably so. Competence was fine - they certainly made less mistakes than I do as a coach. Lots of college coaches on Saturday, some on Friday. Major conference coaches, too. Two of the 6 fields did have 200' fences, the others did not. Fences are always better, but lack of fences in games that are primarily for Showcase purposes doesn't seem like that big of deal.

Have played in Champions Cup 3-4 times when associated with a Gold team. Great tournament, in every respect. Now smaller than Surf City's showcase, but so what? Find the tournament that meets your needs and enter it.

Regards,

Scott

[softballmafia]

JMO you dont make sense....you stated you didnt want to play C-CUP because your players are commited and the tournament starts on wensday, but yet you guys go to New Jersey and Colorado for 2 weeks and spend all that money...you are contradicting yourself

[jmo]

JMO you dont make sense....you stated you didnt want to play C-CUP because your players are commited and the tournament starts on wensday, but yet you guys go to New Jersey and Colorado for 2 weeks and spend all that money...you are contradicting yourself

We don't go to New Jersey, only Colorado. Several of the others go to both NJ and CO because they have been for years and they support both Jim Barsalona and Dan Burns. Boulder is our only trip we take in the summer, no matter how many uncommitted players we have. We did not want to play all week for several other reasons of which I don't need to go into here. I am sure many other teams have their own reasons too. I think you spend way too much time on this forum looking to bash PGF/Surf City. If you don't like what they are doing, then don't go. PGF provides another option for those teams that don't want to go to Midland, Owensboro, etc. If you don't like it, then go to ASA. That is your choice. Is PGF perfect at this point? No - but at least they are working on making changes as they go forward. They are listening!!!

[Clean_up]

Can anyone tell me who won the 16U and 18G divisions please?

[Clean_up]

Sorry, I got lost in all the complaining and basically skimmed the posts.. If anyone could give the final four teams maybe, just curious..

[jmo]

Sorry, I got lost in all the complaining and basically skimmed the posts.. If anyone could give the final four teams maybe, just curious..

The tourney portion of the showcase was not completed. Too many teams to complete a 105 team elimination tourney in one day. Teams were fine with playing fewer games and getting on the road a little earlier. Enjoyed the weekend, the 4 pool play games against top competition and the Sunday elimination portion, even if we did decided to call it a day after our second game. Want to rest my pitchers for upcoming Nationals when it really counts.