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Mad coaches yelling at players help?

by porcupine » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:20 am

dagrizz101 wrote:Ive seen girls who just absolutely do not bounce back after being yelled at and break down and cry and which basically shows you that they are just metally weak....where on the other hand some girls love being challenged and called out, yelling at them just fires them up and elevates their game....no two players react the same way, but you do find that the players who play at the next level can deal with agressive coaches!!


The issue is not aggressive coaching. The issue is negative reinforcement versus positive reinforcement. There is simply no room for debate: in every testable situation, positive reinforcement has proven more effective. And it certainly increases self-esteem and respect for the coach. As someone else said on here, parents who thinks that their daughter prefers to be told she sucks and performs better in that scenario is delusional, and has a daughter that is likely not to play much longer. There is nothing wrong with a coach telling a kid that she needs to step it up, work harder, get in the game, etc., but to convey anger and disgust and become mentally (or metally) abusive when she does something "wrong" is just bad coaching.
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by artomatic » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:54 am

sofbal1234 wrote:Thank you Lucky ;) GREAT "DEAL"!!!! ;) Debate that otb!!! Mr. Know-it-all!!! :o

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by sofbal1234 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:00 am

Call it what you want Arto. When I get put on blast, by the majority of you long term members, just because I don't have enough posts to validate calling one of you out, I don't need my friends to all jump on the bandwagon for support. Which seems to a be all your MO'S...
I love hey bucket for many, many reasons and the only one I don't is when you very wise, knowledgeable and well informed softball people feel the need to degrade or humiliate or undermine some of the less knowledgeable for you own ego boost or for what ever reason! Your like the coaches that yell and put girls down, they shut down. I've seen on a few occasions where people post something not so "up to your standards" and you knock them and they go into hiding! Well you can keep doing that to me if you want but i'm not going anywhere for a while with my 10 year old just getting started in tb! ;) Seems to me the people who do most of that must have been bullied or picked on alot as kids and are using their stagename and profile pics to hide behind and get revenge for their past abuse :o That's just my honest opinion so let the criticism or banter begin! :roll:
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by BenAround » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:05 am

sofbal1234 wrote:my 10 year old just getting started in tb!


'nuff said
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by sofbal1234 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:09 am

That's right!!! Now watch out cus here comes the bandwagon!!! :lol:
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by artomatic » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:20 am

sofbal1234 wrote:Call it what you want Arto. When I get put on blast, by the majority of you long term members, just because I don't have enough posts to validate calling one of you out, I don't need my friends to all jump on the bandwagon for support. Which seems to a be all your MO'S...
I love hey bucket for many, many reasons and the only one I don't is when you very wise, knowledgeable and well informed softball people feel the need to degrade or humiliate or undermine some of the less knowledgeable for you own ego boost or for what ever reason! Your like the coaches that yell and put girls down, they shut down. I've seen on a few occasions where people post something not so "up to your standards" and you knock them and they go into hiding! Well you can keep doing that to me if you want but i'm not going anywhere for a while with my 10 year old just getting started in tb! ;) Seems to me the people who do most of that must have been bullied or picked on alot as kids and are using their stagename and profile pics to hide behind and get revenge for their past abuse :o That's just my honest opinion so let the criticism or banter begin! :roll:

hhhmmm, fair enough...nothing to do with your post count though.
It's nice to get new voices on here.

Maybe it's all the smilies and caps you use....too many smilies and caps piss me off sometimes.
I think they subconsciously remind me of that Grand Master Flash knucklehead.
But jeez, sometimes your volume level is set pretty high, and like Spaz, it hurts my brain.
Try not to take stuff I and others say so seriously. If you knew me, you would know I joke around alot.

It's not life and death. In fact, going thorugh all of it twice before, I just see alot of myself back then in your and others posts.
If people listen to the stuff Joe, Benaround say without letting them get in your kitchen, they have some good info...
How's that, better?
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by sofbal1234 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:29 am

MUCH!!! I guess there could be some coexisting on the forum! Thanks Arto... Notice the no smilies!?
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by BenAround » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:46 am

sofbal1234 wrote:That's right!!! Now watch out cus here comes the bandwagon!!! :lol:


yes, I have reached over 500 posts. I have hit LowGodStatus.

all legacy posters on HB will agree with me and a large KUMBYE-YAAA will be heard by all.

I have ARRIVED. Hey Joe and MR. SKARP, can I come join you in the neekid jello wrestlin' pit?
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by sofbal1234 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:54 am

BenAround, can I come? I wanna play!!!! :D
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by 8u/10udad » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:59 am

My wife and I who both have played the game for many years and coached for many years, believe that you don't have to yell to get your point across. There was an article in Softball Today written about this same subject and they said that girls of course respond different than boys. Boys you can yell all you want and you will get results. With girls, once you start yelling they shut down and just wait for you to stop.

My DD's were in a tourney and the coaches blew the game and the tourney. After the game the coaches belittled and yelled at the girls for almost an hour, telling them they were not worthy of wearing the uniform, they didn't deserve the helmets and bags they have and he should take them back. As the girls left the field they were all crying and a couple did not come back to finish the tourney. The next year, more than half of the team did not come back to that organization due to that coach still being there.

Coaching is not about yelling at players, it is about teaching. Any fool can yell and think they are coaches, but, to really get the results you want, explain it to the kids, you will get more out of them.
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