Mad coaches yelling at players help?

[DP3816]

Simply put in my years of baseball and softball, I have observed that good coaches coach without raising their voices. Bad coaches scream to make their point simply because they don't know how to coach a kid up. JMHO

[JCates]

There are two sides to view on this issue. My DD plays for a coach that will rip into them if need be, but he does not do it in a way to show up or disrespect the players on his team. There is a HUGE difference between a coach that yells just to show how tough he is, and one that will get after a kid because they are not performing at their top level and needs some motivation to break out of what they are doing. Many of these players are busting their butts for their team, coaches and parents and for a coach to go out of their way to be disrespectful to a kid because they made a mistake will only cause them to hate the GAME.

To accept that it is fine for a coach to yell just because it is travel ball is a weak argument in my opinion. Some of the best coaches I have ever played for, and some of the best I have seen coaching at the professional level, were not yellers. They could get after your butt if needed, but they did it in a way that commanded respect, not fear. I have seen case after case where a younger player that is tense from the fear of making a mistake will actually make more mistakes or hesitate at a critical moment in fear of making a mistake...this will actually cause more problems in the long run. Girls at the travel ball level know when they have made a mistake, and many know how to correct what they did wrong without a coach showing them up in front of everyone. If they need correction or an attitude adjustment, doing it front of fans and family in a disrespectful way is not going to bring about this change.

[sofbal1234]

OneTeamOneDream, you might not want to go watch your dd's team play against johnny M's or any or Marty Tyson's CA teams or you'll be terrified (apparently)!!! The girls respond like champs though, just look at their history

Is it because they yell and scream? I dont think so...Everytime I have heard MT yell something, there was intelligent information spewing from his vocal cords. Its not because they yell, it is because they teach... imho

Your EXACTLY right!!! Of all the practices MT has been to with JM, the yelling has been CORRECTIVE CRITICISM and KNOWLEDGE of the game coming from his mouth in a VERY loud, energetic tone that grabs their attention... Along with ALOT of spray, if you know what I mean . But the girls ALL respond in a good way! As a matter of fact, they are always asking when he'll be out at practice again!!!?

[artomatic]

wow! u must only play against rec teams or in a rec team or suppose to be in a rec team! cause all top teams in travel yell at there players to discipline them! so just stop ur crying and worry about your kid getting better hopefully!

p.s. peace out!

I don't think your english teacher yelled at you enough.

[Blind Squirrel]

OneTeamOneDream, you might not want to go watch your dd's team play against johnny M's or any or Marty Tyson's CA teams or you'll be terrified (apparently)!!! The girls respond like champs though, just look at their history

Is it because they yell and scream? I dont think so...Everytime I have heard MT yell something, there was intelligent information spewing from his vocal cords. Its not because they yell, it is because they teach... imho

I know next to nothing about MT but I do remember watching a bit of one of his games. A kid whiffed on two bunt attempts and then hit a grounder. As she ran to first MT was screaming at her "THAT is why you will never bat in the top of the order ...". It didn't occur to me that was teaching and I take full responsibility for my ignorance inspired failure to recognize the intelligent information in those words. In retrospect, I doubt that kid's parents were inclined to ask why their kid isn't at the top of the order after that so I guess it was an educational experience. Whatever.

Simpleton Squirrel

[lunch _money]

Some kids respond to a Zen master, Some kids respond to a lion, My kid reponds to MT and hated every moment she was'nt around him. If your kid cannot handle passionate coaching, dont come to Corona! She might quit softball. My kid responds to yelling, I think I'll put her in the Marines. Cant wait to drive to Corona so MT can jump on my kids a#@ and I'll be off the hook with my wife when I get home!

[Blind Squirrel]

Some kids respond to a Zen master, Some kids respond to a lion, My kid reponds to MT and hated every moment she was'nt around him. If your kid cannot handle passionate coaching, dont come to Corona! She might quit softball. My kid responds to yelling, I think I'll put her in the Marines. Cant wait to drive to Corona so MT can jump on my kids a#@ and I'll be off the hook with my wife when I get home!

My kid actually did quit a sport because of her coaches non-stop yelling. The game simply ceased to be fun for her. But then she really isn't cut out for competitive, emotionally charged environments. She is a fragile snowflake but I still love her.

Softballs Squirrel

[sofbal1234]

Of course everyone is going to try to make their point good or bad (blind squirrel) but we'll all see things differently in this "free for all forum". I know for a fact that it's totally up to the mentality of the player how they will respond or shut down to the subject at hand. And the parents too.... That player may have BEGGED for the opportunity to prove she can perform in that certain situation and didn't. Who knows what the facts are, but your going to try to ridicule what you don't see on a daily basis More power to ya!!! My kids LOVE the motivated, highly charged coaching style of both Marty and Johnny They actually THRIVE off of it

[lunch _money]

I love my kid too! And I love it even more when she comes back in the dugout and tells MT "Like That" and MT says "yeah but you should have hit it to the opposite side, what were you thinking!" Back to the drawing board.

[Blind Squirrel]

Of course everyone is going to try to make their point good or bad (blind squirrel) but we'll all see things differently in this "free for all forum". I know for a fact that it's totally up to the mentality of the player how they will respond or shut down to the subject at hand. And the parents too.... That player may have BEGGED for the opportunity to prove she can perform in that certain situation and didn't. Who knows what the facts are, but your going to try to ridicule what you don't see on a daily basis More power to ya!!! My kids LOVE the motivated, highly charged coaching style of both Marty and Johnny They actually THRIVE off of it

I have zero interest in ridiculing MT or any other coach who has helped as many kids as he has to achieve their goals WRT playing softball in college. My only issue is/was with the perception that only wonderful pearls of cosmic wisdom are emitted from his mouth. And if my kid hated every moment she wasn't around a coach, she would be in therapy. I'm completely serious. I would be very, very concerned about her.

John