12U State Games and Updated Info.

[sofbal1234]

I'm sorry but is it just me that feels that going half way across the country for a FREAKIN TIE in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP sounds lame!!! Reguardless of what place it's for!!!?
I would expect the director to make sure that every team would go home with an individual ranking to give them something to strive for the following season!!!
That's JMHFO...And I know it doesn't matter anyhow !!!

[artomatic]

That's JMHFO...And I know it doesn't matter anyhow !!!

We finally agree on something.

[skilz365]

Lets get the trash talking going! Now that States is over, it is about our Cali teams going to Alabama and representing the Golden State.
Everyone knows Cali Teams are very competitive and beat up on each other all year. Look at how many times teams we thought owned the 12 divisions got beat up by another.
Victory ranked #1 loses to Firecrackers
Firecrackers ranked #1 loses to Punishers
Punishers lose to Breakers & Nemesis
USA Athletics loses to CA98 at States
So Cal Breakers Sieber loses to Ap at States.

Nothing is certain in the 12U division except Cali has a lot of very good teams some of which did not even qualify for Nationals at States.

Teams like Breakers <Sieber>, Punishers '98, USA Athletics '98, Choppers Black, and Strike Force need to find a way to qualify for Nationals and get over there and help the other 12 qualified Cali teams prove Cali still plays the best softball. These teams are too good not to go to Nationals and represent Cali.

Great weekend of softball and congratulations to the OC Batbusters '98 & '99 teams for an outstanding performance. All the 12U division played their hearts out and it was great to see such competitive young girls leave it all out on the field.

Great Job Ladies!

[TheCloser]

This really could be the year that a NON so cal team wins nationals. With teams like TPS98, 98 Ohio Lazers Red, 98 Atl. Vipers and 98 Worth Cobras its anyones game. All 4 of those teams have as good a shot as any team from So Cal. Didn't I read that the Lazers beat OCBB like 10-1 awhile back............I wish I was going to be there just to watch. Not looking forward to the 120 degree weather in Midland But the southeast is so humid temps will feel like 120 in Bama too!

I wouldn't put any of the teams you listed at the same level of the Georgia Impact 97 team that took 2nd at nationals last year. That team had a shot to win it as a 10U team but drew the Corona Angels Lockman in the first game out and lost 1-0 in the last inning and fought their way through the losers bracket from Day 1 to finish 4th. That was amazing! They just ran out of gas in the end.

The teams you mention are nowhere near their class of team.

[ontheblack]

True nuff about GA Impact, but by the same token, this year's 98 SoCal teams are not on the same level as last year's OCBB-Ray, Anderson Sota, SD Aztecs, CA- Lockman and even Campbell's 98 Victory team with the pitcher and hitter he picked up after OCBB-Snow folded at States.

I would also argue that the top 97s last year were not the equal of the top 96s the year before.

[Luv_SC]

I think every year about this time this argument comes out. I put my foot in my mouth a few years back not giving Ray and other 97 teams a shot at anything. I also claimed the 96's class was much better not so sure when I see teams like Crackers 97 Soto now. Hell I thought the 95s were the best class ever. Many arguments can be made. Still no place I would rather be than California and having my dd's play in California. Some wonder why teams like Batbusters and Crackers have girls from Vegas and other states in 12u.

I am sure Campbell will come back with a vengance and his pick ups will help him in more ways than one as will quite a few other teams making the trip to Nationals.

[sofbal1234]

That's JMHFO...And I know it doesn't matter anyhow !!!

We finally agree on something.

ATTA BOY!!!

[TheCloser]

True nuff about GA Impact, but by the same token, this year's 98 SoCal teams are not on the same level as last year's OCBB-Ray, Anderson Sota, SD Aztecs, CA- Lockman and even Campbell's 98 Victory team with the pitcher and hitter he picked up after OCBB-Snow folded at States.

I would also argue that the top 97s last year were not the equal of the top 96s the year before.

I'm not sure I agree with what you're saying. Campbell's Victory team with 15 98's and 2 97's took 5th last year. If you look at the key contributors of that team you'll find that the large majority are still on the team. They didn't pickup a pitcher. It was all 98's that pitched at Nationals.

Last year, Victory 98 was 2-0 in tournaments against the Aztecs, 1-0 against Sota, 0-2 against Batbusters Ray, and 0-1 against CA Lockman.

The same can be said of the FC 98 team. They've beat some really good 97 teams over the last two years.

I agree the 97 class is deeper but the top 98's team can hold their own and we'll bring home a title.

Hell, I remember a thread some years back that said that Team Smith 97 and Corona Angels Lockman 97 had to combine to win Nationals in 10U because we weren't good enough. That was the year So Cal took 1st, 2nd, and 3rd at Nationals while the year before the 96 teams took a dump and let some obscure team from Indiana take the title in Alabama.

[PDad]

This really could be the year that a NON so cal team wins nationals. With teams like TPS98, 98 Ohio Lazers Red, 98 Atl. Vipers and 98 Worth Cobras its anyones game. All 4 of those teams have as good a shot as any team from So Cal. Didn't I read that the Lazers beat OCBB like 10-1 awhile back............I wish I was going to be there just to watch. Not looking forward to the 120 degree weather in Midland But the southeast is so humid temps will feel like 120 in Bama too!

True, but there's more to the story.
- Lasers came back out the next month and finished tied for 3rd (lost to Team Rawlings).
- They lost their #1 pitcher - her family is moving to SoCal and Firecrackers 98 got her.

[Luv_SC]

That’s true and I do think overall the 98s are aggressive and not fearful of the 97's or even each other. I definitely hope and think that the 98 California girls will make a strong showing at nationals and make us all proud.

That stupid comment was probably made by me and as I mentioned I put my foot in my mouth a few years back and the 97 California teams that went to nationals proved me wrong. Guess we will see when we get to Montgomery. I am definitely pulling for a clean sweep this year. Top 4 teams being from California at the minimum.