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12U Bracketologist Ranking - Pre ASA Nationals Updated Poll

by sofbal1234 » Wed May 25, 2011 3:27 pm

Well ain't that just a nice lil nutshell you put ALL OF THAT Into :lol:

Nice job glasshalfempty :!:
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by MVPETE » Wed May 25, 2011 4:01 pm

glasshalfempty wrote:
coachEd wrote:With Brackey’s latest coaches rankings, here is a snap-shot of the rankings for the State brackets. Four teams from each of the top and bottom part of the bracket will get a berth.

Top part of bracket
4 – BB98
14 – Sun Devils
15 – Cruisers
17 – Choppers (Vannoy)
18 – Mizuno Pride
19 – SD Aztecs
20 – AAs 98
22 – So Cal A’s
24 – American Pastime
25 – AAs 99
30 – Eliminators 99
31 – Gamers Academy 98
34 – Teamsmith
39 – Minors Gold 98
41 – TNL
47 - USA A’s (Medina)
48 – Powersurge 98
Plus 9 teams not ranked in the top 50

Bottom part of bracket
2 – Punishers
3 – Victory
5 – Rawlings
6 – Breakers (Sieber)
7 – USA A’s (Berouty)
8 – Double Play
9 – Choppers –Black
11 – Corona Angels 98
12 – OCBB –Briggs
13 – Strikeforce 98
16 – Nemesis 98
21 – Madness
23 – Combat Panterhs
26 – Hurricanes 98
29 – Eliminators 98
32 – Jynx 99
33 – OC Banzai
35 – Breakers (Williams)
36 – Powersurge 99
37 – Stealth
39 – Sudden Impact 98
42 – Corona Angels 99
43 – Cal Lite
46 – Team Anderson 99
Plus 3 teams not ranked in the top 50

Can anyone recall there ever being a more lopsided bracket than this year? Not only are there only 3 teams in among the top 15 in the top part of the bracket vs. 10 top 15 teams in the bottom, but also the disparity between 9 unranked teams in the top vs. 3 in the bottom.


Upper Bracket- Looks like a weak Triple Crown Qualifier BB98- The Finals or Bust!!!
Lower bracket has ridiculous matchups- Victory & CA98 have a cakewalk to qualify!!!

Wondering how many teams will breakup after they eliminate each other in the lower bracket? Will Punishers, Rawlings, DP, Nemesis, Breakers, USA Athletics-Berouty, Strikeforce98, or Choppers-Black survive through June? Will Western Nationals be enough for their better players? Who among them will be willing to go to the second chance tourney? Who among them will be desperate enough to go to the Citrus Ripoff Qualifier? Will some of these weaker teams that qualify even bother to go? Alabama- A lot of money for 4 games!!! Time will tell.




There are only 4 teams registered for the Citrus Classic (DISNEY) - OC Batbusters 98, Artesia Punishers 98, Team Soto, and American Athletics-Miles - with two national berths - that means if two of the teams qualify at States - the other two teams get the berths - no tourney has to be played.
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by glasshalfempty » Thu May 26, 2011 9:34 am

MVPETE wrote:
glasshalfempty wrote:
coachEd wrote:With Brackey’s latest coaches rankings, here is a snap-shot of the rankings for the State brackets. Four teams from each of the top and bottom part of the bracket will get a berth.

Top part of bracket
4 – BB98
14 – Sun Devils
15 – Cruisers
17 – Choppers (Vannoy)
18 – Mizuno Pride
19 – SD Aztecs
20 – AAs 98
22 – So Cal A’s
24 – American Pastime
25 – AAs 99
30 – Eliminators 99
31 – Gamers Academy 98
34 – Teamsmith
39 – Minors Gold 98
41 – TNL
47 - USA A’s (Medina)
48 – Powersurge 98
Plus 9 teams not ranked in the top 50

Bottom part of bracket
2 – Punishers
3 – Victory
5 – Rawlings
6 – Breakers (Sieber)
7 – USA A’s (Berouty)
8 – Double Play
9 – Choppers –Black
11 – Corona Angels 98
12 – OCBB –Briggs
13 – Strikeforce 98
16 – Nemesis 98
21 – Madness
23 – Combat Panterhs
26 – Hurricanes 98
29 – Eliminators 98
32 – Jynx 99
33 – OC Banzai
35 – Breakers (Williams)
36 – Powersurge 99
37 – Stealth
39 – Sudden Impact 98
42 – Corona Angels 99
43 – Cal Lite
46 – Team Anderson 99
Plus 3 teams not ranked in the top 50

Can anyone recall there ever being a more lopsided bracket than this year? Not only are there only 3 teams in among the top 15 in the top part of the bracket vs. 10 top 15 teams in the bottom, but also the disparity between 9 unranked teams in the top vs. 3 in the bottom.


Upper Bracket- Looks like a weak Triple Crown Qualifier BB98- The Finals or Bust!!!
Lower bracket has ridiculous matchups- Victory & CA98 have a cakewalk to qualify!!!

Wondering how many teams will breakup after they eliminate each other in the lower bracket? Will Punishers, Rawlings, DP, Nemesis, Breakers, USA Athletics-Berouty, Strikeforce98, or Choppers-Black survive through June? Will Western Nationals be enough for their better players? Who among them will be willing to go to the second chance tourney? Who among them will be desperate enough to go to the Citrus Ripoff Qualifier? Will some of these weaker teams that qualify even bother to go? Alabama- A lot of money for 4 games!!! Time will tell.




There are only 4 teams registered for the Citrus Classic (DISNEY) - OC Batbusters 98, Artesia Punishers 98, Team Soto, and American Athletics-Miles - with two national berths - that means if two of the teams qualify at States - the other two teams get the berths - no tourney has to be played.


Looks like an expensive insurance policy!!! Lacking a little confidence BB and Punishers? Maybe it's cheaper than qualifying out of state. Funny, I don't see Victory signed up!
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by bracketologist » Thu May 26, 2011 10:03 am

coachEd wrote:With Brackey’s latest coaches rankings, here is a snap-shot of the rankings for the State brackets. Four teams from each of the top and bottom part of the bracket will get a berth.

Top part of bracket
4 – BB98
14 – Sun Devils
15 – Cruisers
17 – Choppers (Vannoy)
18 – Mizuno Pride
19 – SD Aztecs
20 – AAs 98
22 – So Cal A’s
24 – American Pastime
25 – AAs 99
30 – Eliminators 99
31 – Gamers Academy 98
34 – Teamsmith
39 – Minors Gold 98
41 – TNL
47 - USA A’s (Medina)
48 – Powersurge 98
Plus 9 teams not ranked in the top 50

Bottom part of bracket
2 – Punishers
3 – Victory
5 – Rawlings
6 – Breakers (Sieber)
7 – USA A’s (Berouty)
8 – Double Play
9 – Choppers –Black
11 – Corona Angels 98
12 – OCBB –Briggs
13 – Strikeforce 98
16 – Nemesis 98
21 – Madness
23 – Combat Panterhs
26 – Hurricanes 98
29 – Eliminators 98
32 – Jynx 99
33 – OC Banzai
35 – Breakers (Williams)
36 – Powersurge 99
37 – Stealth
39 – Sudden Impact 98
42 – Corona Angels 99
43 – Cal Lite
46 – Team Anderson 99
Plus 3 teams not ranked in the top 50

Can anyone recall there ever being a more lopsided bracket than this year? Not only are there only 3 teams in among the top 15 in the top part of the bracket vs. 10 top 15 teams in the bottom, but also the disparity between 9 unranked teams in the top vs. 3 in the bottom.


Great Question Coach Ed - 8-)

This is probably the most lopsided bracket I have seen.

Yes OC Batbusters 98 have an easy draw but nothing like Power Surge 96 in 2009.





bracketologist wrote:BREAKDOWN of 2009 12U ASA STATE DRAW

Hardest Draw for a Ranked Team!

Hardest Draw Top Bracket: (#16 Raiders)

1. # 16 Raiders will need to beat #2 Jynx, #10 Team Smith & potentially #7 Bomb Squad to qualify for Nationals through the winners bracket.

Hardest Draw Bottom Bracket: (#27 Double Play)

1. # 27 Double Play would need to beat #9 Thunder, #11 Irvine Sting & potentially #25 OC Crush to qualify for Nationals through the winners bracket.


Easiest Draw for a Ranked Team!
#1 PowerSurge will not face one Top 34 team in order to qualify for Nationals through the winners bracket. Not one ranked team!

Note: I hope Scott is playing the lotto!


2009 Hardest Bracket - 1st Bracket on Top Bracket Side:
4 of the top 10 teams!

Top Bracket - 2009:
6 teams ranked in Top 10 (60%)
15 teams ranked in Top 34 (44%)

16.8 Average Ranking of Teams in Bracket (low = harder)

1st Bracket on Top Bracket Side:

8 teams ranked in Top 34
7 teams ranked in Top 20
4 teams ranked in Top 10 (40%)
11.9 Average Ranking of the teams in Bracket

2nd Bracket on Top Bracket Side:

7 teams ranked in Top 34
2 teams ranked in Top 20
2 teams ranked in Top 10 (20%)
22.4 Average Ranking of the teams in Bracket

Bottom Bracket - 2009:
4 teams ranked in Top 10 (40%)
16 teams ranked in Top 34 (47%)

17.1 Average Ranking of Teams in Bracket (low = harder)

1st Bracket on Bottom Bracket Side:

9 teams ranked in Top 34
3 teams ranked in Top 20
2 teams ranked in Top 10 (20%)
18.6 Average Ranking of the teams in Bracket


2nd Bracket on Bottom Bracket Side:

5 teams ranked in Top 34
3 teams ranked in Top 20
2 teams ranked in Top 10 (20%)
14.4 Average Ranking of the teams in Bracket



RANKING TOP 34 TEAMS – MAY 18th 2009

1. San Diego Power Surge
2. So Cal Jynx
3. CA Rebels
4. Firecrackers
5. O.C. Batbusters Marquez

6. Corona Angels Knighten
7. Bomb Squad 96
8. O.C. Wildcats 96
9. Cal Thunder
10. Team Smith 96

11. Irvine Sting –
12. Corona Xpress
13. AA Palomino 97 –
14. Corona Angels Lockman (mostly 97)
15. OC Batbusters – Snow 97

16. Raiders –
17. Revenge 96
18. Valley Tribe 96 & 97
19. So Cal Crunch
20. TNL

21. OC Batbusters – Ray
22. Nemesis 96 –
23. Outlaws Garden Grove
24. No Fear 96
25. OC Crush


26. Minor’s Gold 97
27. Double Play 97
28. USA Athletics
29. CTS –
30. SD Legacy
31. Corona Eliminators
32. San Diego Elite
33. So Cal Diamonds
34. OC Wildcats 97
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by sofbal1234 » Thu May 26, 2011 10:28 am

Good job glasshalfempty! It's been over 24 hours since anyone has posted and we're less than 48 hours to "Put up or Shut up" time :o
Lets see who and how the BB's or Punishers respond to that BURRRRNN!!!!!! :lol:
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by coachEd » Thu May 26, 2011 10:37 am

NOW THAT IS SOME GOOD STUFF BRACKEY !!!

As I recall, the #4 Firecrackers 96 got a tough draw and finished tied for 17th at States and didnt get a berth there, but they got a berth at the Regional and then went on to finish 4th at Nationals. :mrgreen:

On the other hand, #34 OC Wildcats 97, who probably weren't expecting to do well but got a good draw, finished tied for 9th at States to qualify for Nationals, but (probably wisely) declined the berth.
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by 90630 » Thu May 26, 2011 11:19 am

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by anonlooker » Thu May 26, 2011 11:34 am

...just waiting for the current administration to end, so the whole country can get back to reality. :roll:
Don't worry about tomorrow. You did that yesterday.
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by TheCloser » Fri May 27, 2011 7:43 am

Spazsdad wrote:There have been several years in the past where one team faced lesser competition than the others.
Victory was notorious for getting good draws over the years, not that it would have probably mattered. Oc Impact in 08 had a very lopsided draw.
It happens, maybe more apparent now since everyone tracks heybucket's version of the BCS


The most important difference between then and now, however, is that back in the day there were only 3 berths, not 12 like today. There is no excuse for a top team not to qualify.
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by TShark » Fri May 27, 2011 11:29 am

Should be a good weekend of softball. Cant wait to see how it all unfolds. Heading out right now. See you people in the dirt in San Diego. (#39 and fading(hahahaha) is out)
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