12U Bracketologist Ranking - Pre ASA Nationals Updated Poll

[ONE FOR THE ROAD]

State odds based on the draw:

Victory USA 3-1 - Good early draw but will have to get through 3 top 10 teams in a row to win the title.
OC Batbusters 98 4-1 - Easiest draw of all the top teams, should walk into the finals and possibly be able to save some pitching. Will have to beat an elite team to win the title which will be their biggest hurdle but they'll get there easily.
Corona Angels 98 7-1 - Good draw will give them a chance. They'll probably run into Breakers Sieber or USA Berouty before a showdown against Victory.
USA Berouty 8-1 - Ok draw, if they can get by Breakers Sieber in round 2 after a bye they'll have a shot at the semis.
Rawlings 98 10-1 - Tough 1st round game, easy 2nd round game, and a Punishers matchup in round 3. Edge to Rawlings for that game because of the draw.
Breakers Sieber 12-1 - Another tough bracket, possibly Strikeforce 98, USA Berouty, Batbusters Briggs 98/99, Corona Angels, Victory, wow!
Punishers 12-1 - Tough draw, Nemesis 98, Double Play 98, Rawlings 98, Victory, wow! Rawlings can save some pitching against Madness and will have the edge in their game.
Batbusters Briggs 20-1 - Will have to pull off some major upsets.

The odds don't necessarily reflect who the best teams are but it's more indicative of their draw. The bottom half of the bracket is loaded. ASA is stupid. If they want to do the right thing they should do what USSSA does for their Elite 32 World Series which is seed teams based on tournament results.

They should have a few ASA tournaments over the year, maybe 2, Thanksgiving and March/April and base the seedings in the state tournament based on the results.

Brackey, your Punishers squad has a tough road ahead of them.

NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS !!.........GOOD SH!T CLOSER !!!!!!

[coachEd]

State odds based on the draw:

Victory USA 3-1 - Good early draw but will have to get through 3 top 10 teams in a row to win the title.
OC Batbusters 98 4-1 - Easiest draw of all the top teams, should walk into the finals and possibly be able to save some pitching. Will have to beat an elite team to win the title which will be their biggest hurdle but they'll get there easily.
Corona Angels 98 7-1 - Good draw will give them a chance. They'll probably run into Breakers Sieber or USA Berouty before a showdown against Victory.
USA Berouty 8-1 - Ok draw, if they can get by Breakers Sieber in round 2 after a bye they'll have a shot at the semis.
Rawlings 98 10-1 - Tough 1st round game, easy 2nd round game, and a Punishers matchup in round 3. Edge to Rawlings for that game because of the draw.
Breakers Sieber 12-1 - Another tough bracket, possibly Strikeforce 98, USA Berouty, Batbusters Briggs 98/99, Corona Angels, Victory, wow!
Punishers 12-1 - Tough draw, Nemesis 98, Double Play 98, Rawlings 98, Victory, wow! Rawlings can save some pitching against Madness and will have the edge in their game.
Batbusters Briggs 20-1 - Will have to pull off some major upsets.

The odds don't necessarily reflect who the best teams are but it's more indicative of their draw. The bottom half of the bracket is loaded. ASA is stupid. If they want to do the right thing they should do what USSSA does for their Elite 32 World Series which is seed teams based on tournament results.

They should have a few ASA tournaments over the year, maybe 2, Thanksgiving and March/April and base the seedings in the state tournament based on the results.

Brackey, your Punishers squad has a tough road ahead of them.

Because of the draw, some of these top teams are not even going to qualify for the regional and may be chasing a berth at an NQ instead. For instance, the loser of Nemesis/Punishers will be playing the loser of (Breakers-Sieber/Strikeforce 98 winner) v. USA Berouty early in the losers bracket. The loser of (Nemesis/Punishers winner) v. Double Play will have to play the loser of Breakers-Sieber/Strikeforce 98 right away in the losers bracket. A couple of these teams in the top 13 are not even going to qualify to go to the regional just because of the matchups. There will be probably 3 or so teams in the 21-27 rankings that will get berths due to their draw. C'est La Vie. (thanks for the correction PDad, shoud have had my wife proofread it for me )

[fastpitchdad05]

Are Firecrackers '98 not in this tournament?

[sofbal1234]

Are Firecrackers '98 not in this tournament?

Here's one of those instance's where the ignore button would come in handy ...It's called a secured bert

[TheCloser]

Who did OC Batbusters pay off to get their draw? Berouty, I thought you had some pull with ASA.

Whoever comes out of the lower bracket of death needs to win the title. It would suck for the "Cakewalk Bunch" to win the title since it won't be a best 2 out of 3.

[Luv_SC]

Secured berth! Who in the hell is Bert? And its called the luck of the draw. One reason to keep your secure berth is to avoid the Bracket of death as Bracky would tell you. A few years back they all were Brackets of death..

[sofbal1234]

Secured berth! Who in the hell is Bert? And its called the luck of the draw. One reason to keep your secure berth is to avoid the Bracket of death as Bracky would tell you. A few years back they all were Brackets of death..

Believe me... I'm with you on that 1

[PDad]

Because of the draw, some of these top teams are not even going to qualify for the regional and may be chasing a berth at an NQ instead. ... A couple of these teams in the top 13 are not even going to qualify to go to the regional just because of the matchups.

Anyone that wants to go to the regional qualifier can probably get a berth because they get passed down when teams decline them. I haven't seen more than a few SoCal teams go up north for a 12u/14u regional since they dramatically increased the number of SoCal berths a couple years ago. BTW, the NQ is in Clovis the week before the RQ in Roseville, so it might not be a bad idea to enter it too.

Se La Vie.

Is that Span-ench for c'est la vie?

[bracketologist]

Ok 2nd 12U Coaches Poll updated on Tuesday May 24nd.

Currently I only have the top 21 done - will finish later today.

Key Notes:

1. Firecrackers are still #1
2. Artesia Punishers 98 are #2
3. Victory USA is now #3 - and only received 1 first place vote from a coach! Yes the coach that did vote them #1 has a <1% chance of playing them at State.
4. Corona Angels 98 - wow you dropped from #6 to #11..... now it's time to back up the talk.

Let the bracket fun begin.

[fastpitchdad05]

Are Firecrackers '98 not in this tournament?

Here's one of those instance's where the ignore button would come in handy ...It's called a secured bert

I asked because they weren't listed in Closer's odds to win and I found that, well...odd.