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Another tournament not played out????

by coachadub » Mon May 23, 2011 8:24 am

In my profession as an outside sales rep, I will spend hours preparing my schedule for the following weeks to come. Make appointments with key customers and order/gather samples that are needed to do my job. THEN, my boss can call me to inform me that my presence is needed at a regional sales meeting. I may have to then "reschedule" those appointments for something that was "outside of my control". This does not make me a poor sales rep. I am not being inconsiderate of my customers. THINGS HAPPEN!!!

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by anonlooker » Mon May 23, 2011 8:33 am

coachadub wrote:In my profession as an outside sales rep, I will spend hours preparing my schedule for the following weeks to come. Make appointments with key customers and order/gather samples that are needed to do my job. THEN, my boss can call me to inform me that my presence is needed at a regional sales meeting. I may have to then "reschedule" those appointments for something that was "outside of my control". This does not make me a poor sales rep. I am not being inconsiderate of my customers. THINGS HAPPEN!!!

If this topic needed to be brought up to make a point, then wait for an appropriate example to discuss. Otherwise, stay quiet.


So when did they reschedule the Championship Game? :idea: :idea:
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by coachadub » Mon May 23, 2011 8:48 am

anonlooker wrote:
coachadub wrote:In my profession as an outside sales rep, I will spend hours preparing my schedule for the following weeks to come. Make appointments with key customers and order/gather samples that are needed to do my job. THEN, my boss can call me to inform me that my presence is needed at a regional sales meeting. I may have to then "reschedule" those appointments for something that was "outside of my control". This does not make me a poor sales rep. I am not being inconsiderate of my customers. THINGS HAPPEN!!!

If this topic needed to be brought up to make a point, then wait for an appropriate example to discuss. Otherwise, stay quiet.


So when did they reschedule the Championship Game? :idea: :idea:


With the way that these two teams are playing...at ASA States!! :) ;)
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by Jamada » Mon May 23, 2011 10:16 am

Hola Hombres,

My name is Jack Madavilla and like Spazdad, this subject burns me up inside and that is why I am so happy. I totally agree that in order to learn how to be a champion, you have to win at all costs, in every circumstance, regardless of the situation. How can you teach character, when you don’t even want to play a championship game in the dark? These girls have to learn that this game isn’t just for them, it is for everybody who is living their lives through them. In my country, we have a saying, “Su vida no es una vida, a menos que lo que me hace feliz.” It means, “life without winning is like life without Christmas.”

FC Rodriguez and FC Sota, I can tell you understand me, because your last names are similar to that of my countrymen, but spelled differently. Isn’t this the second time your two teams didn’t finish a championship game against each other? Once because of rain, and once because of the dark. Don’t be afraid of a little water and darkness, it is part of the game! Look at the college games. Look in the mirror. Push through it! Make your girls be tough! No lights? Did your cars have headlights? I have one word for you, move the cars to the outfield!

In my country, I’ve either seen or heard about a U10 futbol team practicing headers for 3 hours in candle light. Those little girls looked like aliens after that practice was over. I can remember the coach’s speech like it was yesterday. He said something about “even though your head hurts and your face is bruised, you showed character, and I’m a good coach”. The bottom line, the girls were forced to finish. Sometimes you have to pummel them in the face. Force your girls to be champions!

On another note, what is up with this FC organization? What does the FC even mean? Is it someone’s initials? Is it a secret? Somebody please do tell. Thinking they are so good by dominating and stacking teams with their recruiting tactics. They have good looking coaches and smartass coaches, but who says that matters? I am good looking, athletic, and kind of smart, but does that make me an FC Coach? No, because I would have made my girls play in the dark!

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by dodgerblue » Mon May 23, 2011 10:36 am

Play the freakin game, don't come on here and state safety reasons and a comebaker and all that crap. Maybe you didnt want to lose to the younger team? In 14U my DD played for a well known org. here in so cal and both teams in the championship were from the same orginazation one a 2nd year 14U team the other a 1st year 14U team and I"ll tell you this much, the girls wanted to play that game no matter what and we did and I'll tell you this we played another ship with them later in that year and finished that game also. It was good for us because we showed our little sister team that we were more experienced and we made them tougher to compete with the older girls. I agree with you spaz on this topic that the championship games should be completed at this age because before you know it every game will be a showcase and there's no winner or loser. I'm glad when my DD was coming up we never walked away from the ship no matter what. Good luck at nationals and hope you guys can finish.
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by PDad » Mon May 23, 2011 10:51 am

SoCalFiend wrote:... Having just hosted a tournament ourselves, I can assure you that you cannot predict the length of time for some games, that's obvious, let alone the chance a few games run long. I know for a fact the schedule looked good on paper. As far as not having lights, like I said before, it look right on paper with no need for lights, I can attest to that. ...

Really? I think you're being too kind. Your team plays deep in a lot of tournaments, so you should know chances are good a few games out of 23 will run long and therefore the probability of elimination games staying on schedule is very low when they're 1:45 apart.

Did your MDC championship games start on time? If not, did they still get played because you had field time available beyond the game schedule?

Bottom line - the Cruisers laid out an elimination schedule with little to no cushion for games going long. They gambled everything would go perfectly and the finalists lost out when it didn't.
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by ontheblack » Mon May 23, 2011 10:58 am

coachadub wrote:
anonlooker wrote:
So when did they reschedule the Championship Game? :idea: :idea:


With the way that these two teams are playing...at ASA States!! :) ;)


Sota wont be there.
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by BenAround » Mon May 23, 2011 11:03 am

Maybe you didnt want to lose to the younger team?


BINGO - Bad situation for the org to deal with. Took the easy way out.
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by hotwheels » Mon May 23, 2011 11:19 am

I must be missing something here on this topic. I don't believe that the girls on both of those teams will be any less talented for not having played that game. I believe that those girls all have heart on both teams just to get there...This was a tournament that was a ton of fun to play in. Both teams have been in Championship Games before and both have won and lost. Both of those teams will be in a Championship Game again. This wasn't a 1 time thing for either 1 of those teams...Because of that, I don't see the big deal with the decision being made to not play for whatever reason. This will not affect those girls either way...The parents on the other hand??? It's not about us as parents and I'll never buy into that for any reason. We all do this for them. It's seems to be that some are suggesting that these girls won't make it in college because they didn't finish the Cruisers tournament in May of 2011...Somehow I think that might not even come up...

I don't know Susan personally but I do know Anthony as well as his entire coaching staff and some of the things that seem to be implied on this topic are way off base! I know that the Firecrackers organization is a class organization. I'm only basing my opinion on my team's games against their teams not only this season but over the last 5 years. We've had many battles against both of their 97 teams this season and I've seen nothing but class from both teams, coaches, and parents!

Of course everyone wants to play it out but for whatever reason it didn't happen...To me that should be it...I guarantee that Susan and Anthony from the Firecrackers as well as Don Cone from the Cruisers WISH that the timing/situation was different and the games could've played out. Just didn't work out like that...
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by dodgerblue » Mon May 23, 2011 11:27 am

Bottom line is at this age championship games should be played out regardless if they've been there 5 or 10 times. I know when my girl was that age and they made it to the ship you better beleive that they wanted to finish. I guess times are changing for the worse everybodys a winner and gets a participation trophy and so on. Glad I'm past that and now; I get to sit and watch showcase games where nobody wins.
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